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I don't need the whole thing but I'll take it.
I'm looking for the flexible part and all the metal pieces that hold it on to the fairing and the end of the unit.
I'm not sure as they were missing when I bought the bike.
 

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(new) https://fortnine.ca/en/bikemaster-turn-signal

(new &/or components with parts diagram) 2002 Kawasaki ZR-7S (ZR750-H2) Turn Signals | Ron Ayers

There are also a lot of used on ebay, or you may get lucky here and a member has some extra.

There is a slight difference between the front and the rear in the rubber and plastic bits.

It would be identical to the left front side one as far as required parts.
Thanks for that. I had looked on Bike Bandit and saw the parts were gone so I figured they couldn't be had.
And I would order them right now except I may need more parts plus I don't want to jinx the project by getting ahead of myself.
In other words, if I start making everything perfect too soon, I'll open up the cam cover and find out the valves are bent or something like that. I need to do the hard part first then everything else will fall into place. Sounds crazy but it's happened before.
 

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There's a thread here somewhere about the flush aftermarket replacements if you didn't want the OEM style.

There's stalk and surface mount types. Users here have posted photos using each type.

Pros: lower price than OEM style, LED saves power if you want to add extra electrics and not swap out the alternator,
flush mounts give good visibility to the sides, stalks can also give rear visibility (if they are dual sided LED's and not just one directional like the OEM signals), can be brighter than stock incandescent bulbs

Cons: need to replace flasher relay with an LED compatible model to prevent hyper flash, looks are subjective (you either like them or they are ugly..), flush mounts give less front and rear viewing than stalks. Needs the adapter plates (some LED's come with them) to properly cover the holes where the OEM ones mount.

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Here's the OEM style for a lot less money. Comes via China so may take a while..

 
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There's a thread here somewhere about the flush aftermarket replacements if you didn't want the OEM style.

There's stalk and surface mount types. Users here have posted photos using each type.

Pros: lower price than OEM style, LED saves power if you want to add extra electrics and not swap out the alternator,
flush mounts give good visibility to the sides, stalks can also give rear visibility (if they are dual sided LED's and not just one directional like the OEM signals), can be brighter than stock incandescent bulbs

Cons: need to replace flasher relay with an LED compatible model to prevent hyper flash, looks are subjective (you either like them or they are ugly..), flush mounts give less front and rear viewing than stalks. Needs the adapter plates (some LED's come with them) to properly cover the holes where the OEM ones mount.

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Here's the OEM style for a lot less money. Comes via China so may take a while..

I'm probably going to order the signal rubber boot and two oval metal washers I'm missing.
I can see I may need a set of carb holders as well and maybe some carb parts as well so I'll hold off until I get a complete order. The cover is ready to take off.
I'm wondering if I can skate by with the original valve cover gasket? I tend to doubt it.

I don't know how old the plugs are (possibly original) but they spun out nicely, not cranked in too tight or cross threaded and they were burning beautifully. Ever so slightly tan so maybe a tad on the lean side, but just a tad. I'm happy about that.
I think if I had tight valves somehow they wouldn't all be so clean.

Another thing. The front tire is from 2012, cracked but plent of tread.
The rear tire (170/60 which is wrong size) is from 2004, cracked a lot, but it still has close to 2-3mm of tread before the wear bars ???
So I can only guess that the first owner put most of the miles on it, and the second owner, who I bought it from really didn't ride it as much as he said.
Anyways, judging by the rear tire wear (and the overall condition), the bike was never beat on.
Now to free up some time to get the show on the road.
 

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160/60ZR17 the proper size for the rear. The front is a 120/70XR17. I'd not ride on a cracked tires let alone that the rear is 16 years old.
 

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160/60ZR17 the proper size for the rear. The front is a 120/70XR17. I'd not ride on a cracked tires let alone that the rear is 16 years old.
I have the Conti Road Attack 3 on my z900 and love them but I may go with the Bridgestone T31 for the 7S.
When I was buying the bike the owner took it for a ride and about wiped out. The rear tire nearly folded itself off the rim. When I got it home it had 12psi.
I tried to pump it up and the valve stem broke off. LOL.
 

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I have Conit Motions on mine. They are all I've bought since the Bridgstones that were on them wore out. I find they work well in all weather and my riding style and they are extremely affordable. I'd have them on my ST as well but they don't come in the size I need for it. The Road Attack 3's are a very good tire too.
 

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I have Conit Motions on mine. They are all I've bought since the Bridgstones that were on them wore out. I find they work well in all weather and my riding style and they are extremely affordable. I'd have them on my ST as well but they don't come in the size I need for it. The Road Attack 3's are a very good tire too.
I'm looking into the Conti Motions. You are right, they are about $100 bucks cheaper per set than the RA3, which I love.
I've used the Bridgestone Battlax series for years and loved them until the RA3 converted me.
I don't mind spending money on tires but I want to keep my restore project cost within reason.
How is the ride quality of the Motions? Can you compare them to the Bridgestone bt-023 ( if that's what you had on there)?
The 023 is a good tire, one of the best bangs for the buck out there considering price and wear. It's just that they are a little numb feeling when leaning over in a corner.
 

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I'm looking into the Conti Motions. You are right, they are about $100 bucks cheaper per set than the RA3, which I love.
I've used the Bridgestone Battlax series for years and loved them until the RA3 converted me.
I don't mind spending money on tires but I want to keep my restore project cost within reason.
How is the ride quality of the Motions? Can you compare them to the Bridgestone bt-023 ( if that's what you had on there)?
The 023 is a good tire, one of the best bangs for the buck out there considering price and wear. It's just that they are a little numb feeling when leaning over in a corner.
The bike had BT020's on it when I bought it. They weren't new but I got a season out of them. I found they scalloped quite bad, especially the front.

I really like the Contimotions ride and handling. I'm no professional racer but I like to lean the biked over well in the corners. The cheap price is a bonus.
The only downside is the rear center has no real tread and no wear indicator, so I've had two sets that seemed ok when I left for work in the morning and then by end of day I could see the metal belts.
In fairness I should have changed them earlier but I like to get my $$ worth and every set ended up being replaced in Oct/Nov/Dec which is the very end of our season.

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Obo, how many miles are you getting out of the Motions?
I ordered my first batch of parts today for the turn signal. To get the free shipping I had to order more stuff so I went with new plugs, head cover gasket and finally my first METRIC feeler gauge. 👍 No more math in my head using the inch system.
I wound up ordering through Rocky Mountain ATV because they had the feeler gauge I wanted. Their prices are higher on some parts and lower on others. It balanced out against Ron Ayers but their free shipping limit was less.
 

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Average for me is in around 12,000km / 7500 miles, but I run them until the very end. I don't keep hard records on the mileage as I view tires like gas. You use them when you want to and get more when needed. They are a consumable.
Obviously your local Summer temps, how you ride and the road surfaces will have an impact on your mileage.

Here's the BT020's when I replaced them (you can see how the front is worn more on one side and both sides are scalloped)
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Here's the last contis when I replaced them. Like I said, they were "fine" in the morning when I did my pre-ride check and by end of day they were like this. By fine I mean no visible steel belts. I obviously must lean the bike more to one side...

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The fronts are usually still fine but I usually replace them in pairs. As a front only costs $80-90 Cdn it's a no brainer.

I think there's a section here on tires and some folks have gotten more and some less for mileage. My 2 cents is give them a try if you wish and if they don't work well or last as you'd like go back to the road attack 3's as they are a great tire too.

Tire are subjective just like oil. You need them, they are all consumables, and everyone has an opinion on what works best for them. :)
 

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I'm surprised they can't give you the date code. Every new tire has one. It's part of the DOT stamp of every tire.
The first 2 numbers are the week, and the next 2 the year that the tire was made.
Anything with a different format is either not DOT approved or so old it uses the old format (and you'd not want to drive on a tire that old anyway!)

Example this was made 38th week of 2016
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I had Metzlers on an old Honda Nighthawk years ago. That's also not a bad price.
 

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Chaparral has Conti Motions right now for about $174 US per set.
I have in the past asked for date codes on tires and they will begrudgingly call the warehouse and give them to you, and from big name places such as Chaparral.
This Smith Family emailed me and said they had several such tires and couldn't give me the codes so I won't deal with them at all.
 

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I could see why they possibly don't give the date as they may have multiple tires with multiple ages and it would be unlikely you got the exact one for the date they gave you. They may also give you the oldest in stock as it would make sense to rotate the oldest stock first.. this is one of those cases where customer service lacks a bit. Part of why I like to buy in person if possible. Yes I may not get the newest tire, or have the best selection, or the best price... but I can see the date on a tire for myself and decide.
 

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I've gone with large suppliers as they have a lot of turn over and have had good luck (tho I have sent done back) but dealers in my area, Boston, are few and far between. And have a horrible selection. They're either pure sport tires or cruiser tires.
I'm pretty fussy about my tires. When I get one I like, I don't like changing. I'm stubborn.
 

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Boy this is a lonely thread! Thought I would drop in and type a little while. I've bought all my tires on Amazon for the ZR-7, Triumph Tiger, and Connie; all Bridgestones... the BT023's for the 7 and T30s for the other bikes. Generally, you can choose the supplier and I've had good luck getting tires less than a year old with the same DOT code from Chaparral, Powersport Superstore, and Motorcycle Superstore. Just recently, I replaced the 7's 023s after about 9000 miles and 6+ years with T31s I bought from Revzilla because I got them shortly after they came out and I couldn't find the sizes on Amazon. I don't have that many miles on them but they are a pretty tire. I was going to try other brands, but you guys sold me early on the 023s and Bridgestone has been my tire of choice. Were those original tires not over 8 years old, I would give them to someone to run; mine still have "serviceable" tread, but the rear valve stem broke. They are in my carport if you want to see them.

In fact, Obo, I'm glad you're here because I think I've decided to give up riding and I needed to tell someone. Nothing happened; in fact, during the spring, I did all my maintenance on both bikes and rode around a little bit, but I haven't taken a meaningful ride since May-June 2019. I had a work assignment away from home at the end of 2019 and then we had a tornado hit the homestead in January 2020 that I'm still cleaning up (because I was too cheap to pay $12k for tree removal; such is the burden of a DiY'er). Then, of course, the bug hit and I have a couple of at-risk family members. So I've been staying with my mom 2-3 days a week every week since March while we stay completely distanced.

Sometimes I think about selling the Harley, and I could probably get close to what I have in it, but I don't think I could even find a buyer for the 7; the upgraded suspension alone is worth more than I paid for the bike! My wife and mom don't want me to sell; I guess I could keep them cleaned, polished, maintained and ready to go just in case.

Oh yeah, FYI... this is my last year as a Premium Member of the forum; I cancelled my pay subscription which expires at the end of September I think.
 

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DF. glad to hear you're all keeping safe. Yes, it's been a challenging year to say the least. I too had very little riding in 2020 as I was confined to working from home. Situation similar to yours with caring and at-risks and we were in mandated lock down here for multiple months (out only for necessities.) I also bought a new STeed (a Honda ST1300) Nov-ish of 2019 so the ZR7S only saw movement from the sheds to the garage and back., so under a mile.

Sorry to hear the homestead took a beating. I remember photos showing all those magnificent trees in the yard. Glad everyone made out OK though!

The forum here is much slower now, with almost none of the 7 crew about. It's been me lurking about for the most part until @Zed7 showed up. :) Some of the old members pop in (I look at the login stats) but rarely chat. I blame part of it on the few numbers of 7s's left out there. I was surprised to read Smash never returned your gauges as I'd never had expected that. He and Karla kind of dropped off the map as well after they got married (and they sold her 7), as did Shortlife. Carryall passed away in 2018 and he was one of the last I regularly chatted with both in the forum and privately. I miss him and our banter about blue vs red (bike colours - not politics.) In fact I miss the banter and chatting with all the old members, present company included!

As for selling, keep either or both. You're right you'll never get your money back - but it never was about an investment was it? It was about the ride and something to do. Someday things will get back to some kind of normal, and if the desire arises to feel the wind in your hair and reclaim some of those days gone by, it's there waiting for you. If you never ride it or anything again, don't regret it. Own the decision for the reasons you made it and be proud. Life is too short for regrets.

How's that light saber arm making out anyway? :) :) Be safe and take care!

Obo.
 

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Daddy Flip, sorry to hear about your troubles. It's been a weird 2020 and 2021 doesn't look like an improvement. I hope your family members recover.
My best friend just got covid and along with it AFIB. He went on blood thinners yesterday.
I have one nephew who got it twice and thankfully recovered both times.

Where are you located?

I've had two stock suspensions rebuilt and modified by Jamie at Daugherty Motorsport in Indiana. My most recent for my 2017 Kawi z900. He charged me a total of $650 for a complete respring and revalve job, front and rear. Set for my weight and riding style. That's less than the price of a midrange rear shock. He also pre-sets sag and the clickers on a dyno.
The bike feels fantastic.
I'm going to rebuild my forks but I'll buy my components from him.
He's a suspension expert and he's busy. He has not much time to talk.
He asks you what bike, how much you weigh, and if you ride on the street or if you're racing at the track.
I told him street only but I like to ride aggressively on country backroads every now and then.
He says, "ok, I know what you want". And I say, "but ...". And he says "I've been doing this a long time".
You send him your suspension and it comes back perfectly set up for you.

Anyways, things get better. Don't sell the bike just yet. StaBil the gas and see what happens.
 
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