[fencingdude101]

The new one is plastic reservoir? I am afraid one of the sub $20 reservoirs from overseas is going to leak. I have grown to like the Rizoma reservoirs on my ZX6R and will probably take them off the bike when I sell it ( I will be stationed overseas again) but I dont want to put bad parts on the bike before I sell it.

Yup, the new one is plastic with a metal top, whereas the other one was all metal being held in by screws.

Here's a link to the one I have on now: Res Just remember to get a new rubber tube, the one provided is junk.

 

[reod12x2]

I've been doing research on a zx10r conversion and have a question about why later model components( particularly the fork tubes) are used instead of more recent model years.

 

[AArman]

anyone can tell me if ZX14 front rim will is direct swap.
i got zx6 trees on and z1000 04 forks, but been struggling with getting a front rim. And found this zx14 14 rim that looks like has 6005 bearing which means it take 25mm axle.
just wanted to confirm if it will fit for me

thanks

 

[1179]

Would like to know if change the bearing size OD 42mm x ID 25mm x W 9mm with spacer, does it compatible with ZX6R/636 etc forks?

 

[mtn50]

This maybe a lost cause but does anyone know the minimum rise needed for lock to lock capability if using the woodcraft clip ons?

 

[rsteiger]

Good info on this thread.

Ok I bit the bullet after going back and forth on options for my 2007 front end.

Right now I am going with a 2009 ZX10R lower (according to Two Daves Racing 2008-2010 ZX10R triples are a direct bolt in aside from welding in the steering stops) and a Z1000 top triple with 2004 ZX10R forks. I have all the parts so far except for the forks. Also picked up a Versys lower triple if the ZX10R forks or welding the stops on the ZX10R triple become an issue.

The was another neat development with a guy on YouTube who was able to directly replace his Ninja's front end with a 2008 R6 front in using a conversion kit from All Balls - http://precisionmoto.com/2014/11/12/fork-swap/.

 

[mtn50]

Recently completed the fork swap on my 2014 650 ABS using 07 zx6r forks with 10 z1000 uppers, and 08 Versys 650 lower. Also used Nissin calipers paired with a Brembo 19x18 mkii just since I Like tinkering. Then I bought a used Penske double clicker with ride height adjustability from an 2006 ninja 650 and replaced the stock rear. I also replaced the regular bars with the woodcraft 1 1/2" riser plate I found from a parted out bike. So I am still using the stock brake lines with the ABS since a used carbon plate to mount the abs sensor on the forks reading the wheel speed. I've ridden a few short rides but it is winter and haven't been out to really put it through it's paces. I was mainly more concerned with the braking and that has seemed to work very well with the abs unit still performing its job.
I do have a few items I would like to address still, including updating the brake lines with stainless. I have looked on all the manufactures and can't find a kit made for the ABS unit. So I was curious if anyone knows of one or should i forgo the abs?
I'm also not 100% sure how all these changes have effected the ride geometry and was wondering if anyone has stock ride height measurements for the rear and the front?
I currently have the fork tubes sticking beyond the triple by 15mm and the shock was set to stock length, I was short sighted and did not get the ride measurements stock before hand.
I also intend to rebuild the forks and spring them for my weight of 180 lbs, as well as the rear. Both I believe are sprung for 150/160 respectively lbs riders.

 

[mtn50]

Don’t have great photos right now of finished product, but a few of the process

 

[rsteiger]

Recently completed the fork swap on my 2014 650 ABS using 07 zx6r forks with 10 z1000 uppers, and 08 Versys 650 lower. Also used Nissin calipers paired with a Brembo 19x18 mkii just since I Like tinkering. Then I bought a used Penske double clicker with ride height adjustability from an 2006 ninja 650 and replaced the stock rear. I also replaced the regular bars with the woodcraft 1 1/2" riser plate I found from a parted out bike. So I am still using the stock brake lines with the ABS since a used carbon plate to mount the abs sensor on the forks reading the wheel speed. I've ridden a few short rides but it is winter and haven't been out to really put it through it's paces. I was mainly more concerned with the braking and that has seemed to work very well with the abs unit still performing its job.
I do have a few items I would like to address still, including updating the brake lines with stainless. I have looked on all the manufactures and can't find a kit made for the ABS unit. So I was curious if anyone knows of one or should i forgo the abs?
I'm also not 100% sure how all these changes have effected the ride geometry and was wondering if anyone has stock ride height measurements for the rear and the front?
I currently have the fork tubes sticking beyond the triple by 15mm and the shock was set to stock length, I was short sighted and did not get the ride measurements stock before hand.
I also intend to rebuild the forks and spring them for my weight of 180 lbs, as well as the rear. Both I believe are sprung for 150/160 respectively lbs riders. View attachment 114042

I am looking to do my conversion over the holidays. I was planning on measuring the distance from the axle to the bottom of the steering head tube as a reference before removing the stock forks.

Since I am using 04 ZX10R forks and stock wheel this should get me close to the stock setup. I can post up that measurement when I take it.

 

[AusEr6guy]

Hi all, Greetings from Oz. This is an awesome thread but id appreciate some help.

I have a 2010 ER6 and planning a fork swap. Ive found a complete front end(sans wheel) from a 2012 z1000sx.
It appears to use the same bearings as the er6(all balls racing shows same part numbers for triples and wheel shaft)
I want to keep the ER6 standard bar, my er6 wheel and abs. The forks have the ABS mounting so im good there. The brakes (i think are the same diameter as stock) and the front end comes with the z1000 calipers.

My question is will a 03-05 top triple fit those forks ? I want to keep the stock bar and ignition lock etc etc. Also has anybody had any experience with later model forks such as these from z1000sx?

I suppose what im looking for is reassurance that this willl all fit
Here’s a pic of where im at...

 

[Monsterdood]

I currently have an 03-04 ZX6R fork swap on my 2009 650R race bike and am interested if the newer BP forks from the ZX6R ‘13-15 or preferably the ‘16+ BP forks will fit. These forks have a 53mm lower triple clamp and 50mm upper triple so they need the later triple clamps, not the 03-04 like many of us have. So mostly I’m interested if anyone knows if the ‘13+ ZX6R stem is of an appropriate length like the 03-04 stem and if that lower triple will slide right into my frame.

I know the 2009 bpf forks will bolt up, but not sure about the 13+.

I know a lot of these threads diverge into the which forks are better and whether it is worth it, but let’s just stipulate I may want a later model fork for kicks and I can report back whether it was worth it or not.



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[AusEr6guy]

I can't help with your problem but I will say that 2012 z1000sx forks fit but the fork legs stick out the top triple about 30mm. I used 1.5 inch risers and an 04 top triple. The bottom triple doesn't have steering stops. everything else is compatible including the axle and spacers being EXACTLY the same dimensions
Not finished yet. More info here if you need it.
https://www.riderforums.com/general-ninja-650r/105030-auser6guy-s-journey.html

 

[Monsterdood]

I currently have an 03-04 ZX6R fork swap on my 2009 650R race bike and am interested if the newer BP forks from the ZX6R ‘13-15 or preferably the ‘16+ BP forks will fit. These forks have a 53mm lower triple clamp and 50mm upper triple so they need the later triple clamps, not the 03-04 like many of us have. So mostly I’m interested if anyone knows if the ‘13+ ZX6R stem is of an appropriate length like the 03-04 stem and if that lower triple will slide right into my frame.

I know the 2009 bpf forks will bolt up, but not sure about the 13+.

I know a lot of these threads diverge into the which forks are better and whether it is worth it, but let’s just stipulate I may want a later model fork for kicks and I can report back whether it was worth it or not.



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I went ahead and bought a 2016 ZX6R fork and lower triple off eBay to see if they can be used and it bolted up! I used the top bearing and cup/seal from the 650r (same as I was using on the other fork swap). The top locking ring nut only caught about 2 of the 4 threads but it was enough to use the tabbed lock washer and get it together. The bottom one attached to the cover/seal was perfect.

I used some basic top triple clamp off of eBay and it all seems good to go. I will need new brake rotors because they went from 300mm rotors to 310mm or I need to have 5mm machined off the brake caliper mounting surface. These are the 2016 Nissan monoblock calipers so I guess that’s rare.... monoblocks on a 650r.

Now we know


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[AusEr6guy]

Nice work! Interesting that the bottom triple is so close but not an exact fit. Will the 650 stem press in perhaps for those two extra threads?

Regarding monoblocks I have a set of 2016 z1000sx calipers on mine. They have no seem and so i assume theyre monoblock as well. They’re the same ones used on the H2sx.

There are other Kawasaki discs that are 310mm and its a nice upgrade as well. If it were me id go bigger discs rather than smaller rotor mounts. To my mind its easier but if you have someone who can machine it....

 

[Monsterdood]

If I was going to change the stem, I would use the 03-04 ZX6R stem and upper clamp which is also 50mm and has the same offset as the lower clamp from the ‘13+ ZX6R. Perhaps the stock 650r stem would work with a 50mm upper triple, but I don’t know.


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[Shifu]

Hello all,

I know the topic is quite old and the last message as well but if you don't mind I'd like your help. After going through all the threads (took me quite some time), I haven't found yet my answer.
I bought an ER6 with the fork swap already completed with lower/upper triple and fork from ZX6R. So where is my problem ? :dunno:

I'd like to transform the clip-ons by and handlebar as I prefer handlebars.
I was looking for a Z1000 upper clamp but it is quite hard to find one... Right now I have the possibility to buy an upper clamp from a Versys 2007. As per the first message it says that "clip-ons must be used".
Though when I checked on Kawasaki website, the Versys 2007 is with a handlebar. So why should I use clip-ons ?
In other words : can I buy the Versys 2007 triple clamp that I found and mount an handlebar ?

[As I'm not a native English speaker, please forgive me for my English]

 

[AusEr6guy]

Congratulations on the new bike. Post up some pics of the bike?

That is strange...Do you have a picture of the upper triple? The versys fork legs are long and the zx6rs are shorter and that could be part of the problem.
Other top clamps that can be used are z750’s BTW
I also know that a 2012 z1000sx top triple will fit but it needs clip ons.

 

[Shifu]

Congratulations on the new bike. Post up some pics of the bike?

That is strange...Do you have a picture of the upper triple? The versys fork legs are long and the zx6rs are shorter and that could be part of the problem.
Other top clamps that can be used are z750’s BTW
I also know that a 2012 z1000sx top triple will fit but it needs clip ons.

Thank you for your response.
When you say "part of the problem", which problem are you talking about ?
Because as per fencingdude101 the initiator of this thread:

Upper Triples

Z1000
Handlebars: Allows stock use for 12-15 650s

Versys 650
Handlebars: Must use clip-ons (12-15 650s: Must use clip-on risers)


Handlebars/Clip-Ons:

Stock
-If you have the Z1000 upper triple clamp and a 12-15 650, the stock handlebars and risers can be swapped over to the new uppers.
-This lets you keep the rubber mounted handlebars
-This also means that any aftermarket bars that use the 650 risers can be used (E.X. Sportbars)

So if i understand well, fencingdude101 is saying the opposite of what you're saying, no? Don't want to be rude, just trying to figure it out/understand
Handlebar possible with Z1000 (even stock use with 12-15 650)
Handlebar NOT possible with Versys. Clip-ons must be used.

Reading through other topics in riderforums (though can't find the topic where i read that), I thought that the top clamp diameter of the Z750 was too small for the ZW6R tubes.
Can you confirm the top clamp diameter of the Z750 (which year?) is 50 mm and suits a 2008 ZX6R front fork?

Thank you for your help,

Shifu.

 

[AusEr6guy]

Mate, Ive had a look and the 2007 versys top triple clamps and that i can find dont have any holes/provision for a bar clamp.
That’s why i asked for pictures of the one you found. I was lucky and found a z1 top triple for my conversion. You have me doubting my previous research about the z750 now. From what I recall they were the same the bar clamp is the same part number and the year was circa 2010.
The way i researched what would fit was i found a website where one of the aftermarket fork manufacturers had a list of lots of dimensions of fork leg.

Also, z1 triple https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/03-06-Kawasaki-Z1000-Top-Upper-Triple-Clamp-Tree-/382919791302

 

[Shifu]

Thank you AusEr6guy for your response. Very much appreciated

My bad about the pictures I've sent. I thought you wanted to see the clamp that I have right now... Not the clamp I found online.

Hereafter is the diagram of a 2007 Versys from the official website of Kawasaki:

And here pictures of what I've found online:

Maybe Versys models are different from country to country?

Thank you very much for the Z1k link on eBay you gave me. Though, the price is too high for my budget

And by any chance would you recall the website of the aftermarket fork manufacturers you talked about?

Again, thank you very much for your help AusEr6guy

Shifu.