Shifting gears at higher rpm's

I don't really notice a click when shifting at the higher RPM's. However, if you are quickshifting, i.e. not pulling the clutch in, you can fell a little detent when pre-loading the shifter.

Thanks, unfortunately I'm not quick shifting though. Its wierd because upshifting is normally very smooth but there is a distinct click thay occurs about 60-70% of the time. Is not every time but it is certainly the majority of the time.

Check clutch cable slack? Might not be completely disengaging the clutch.

That was one of the first thoughts that came to my mind too. The only reason I did not give it much more thought is because it does not happen all the time and has never happened when shifting in the lower rpm range. All that being said, if a cable clutch with too much slack can give problems "here and there," the high rpm part could be coincidence I suppose. Would a clutch cable with too much slack cause a consistent problem or could it be sporadic (like my issue)?

A_Piazza said:

Check clutch cable slack? Might not be completely disengaging the clutch.

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As long as you're letting off the throttle (even a little), "not be completely disengaging the clutch" shouldn't be an issue. Other than when I come to a complete stop, I rarely fully disengage the clutch. Most of my shifts are completed with a flick of the clutch lever, and no click.

cyclesarge said:

As long as you're letting off the throttle (even a little), "not be completely disengaging the clutch" shouldn't be an issue. Other than when I come to a complete stop, I rarely fully disengage the clutch. Most of my shifts are completed with a flick of the clutch lever, and no click.

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I'm not saying that was the answer. Just purely a suggestions for looking. I really haven't much a clue what would cause that click.

A_Piazza said:

I'm not saying that was the answer. Just purely a suggestions for looking. I really haven't much a clue what would cause that click.

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We'll, that's not it, but I appreciate the help brainstorming either way!

instead of a click sound, i get a loud "clunk" like sound (at high RPMs, 90% of the time)... everytime i hear that... i think "ouch!"... specially between 1 & 2 gears :S i hope that's normal or, in the case i'm doing something wrong; fixable.

OP - if I'm understanding you correctly, you're probably soft shifting. You don't need to be gentle when you upshift. Kick it into gear and go. You didn't notice it before because the RPMs were lower.

I'm not sure you did understand JustAJ. The click/clunk that I feel when shifting is very noticeable. Normally, up shifting is smooth, this is not. I would guess I would notice it more if it occurred when the rpms are low because there's less distraction/noise when the engine is at 3500 compared to 7k. I'm beginning to wonder if it's from the clutch not being fully engaged because the feeling resembles that of shifting without using the clutch, but not quote that dramatic and the bike doesn't jump. Who knows! I certainly don't, that's why I'm asking:Wow1:

Icmyserenity said:

I'm not sure you did understand JustAJ. The click/clunk that I feel when shifting is very noticeable. Normally, up shifting is smooth, this is not. I would guess I would notice it more if it occurred when the rpms are low because there's less distraction/noise when the engine is at 3500 compared to 7k. I'm beginning to wonder if it's from the clutch not being fully engaged because the feeling resembles that of shifting without using the clutch, but not quote that dramatic and the bike doesn't jump. Who knows! I certainly don't, that's why I'm asking:Wow1:

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I'm beginning to wonder if it's just not your technique. If I'm upshifting (even without the clutch), a light touch on the shifter and a slight release on the throttle results in a smooth upshift. No "drama", unless I'm trying to cram the shifter up before I've let off the throttle. Maybe in anticipation of faster speeds, you're trying to shift up before you should?

I think it is just clicking into gear...I believe that I have done it once but I wasnt completely off the throttle

cyclesarge said:

I'm beginning to wonder if it's just not your technique. If I'm upshifting (even without the clutch), a light touch on the shifter and a slight release on the throttle results in a smooth upshift. No "drama", unless I'm trying to cram the shifter up before I've let off the throttle. Maybe in anticipation of faster speeds, you're trying to shift up before you should?

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Sarge,

I think the premise of operating a manual shifting vehicle is fairly simple and I've been doing it for some time, this is not a new process for me. I'm always up to suggestions, but I'm fairly confident Im shifting correctly. Please tell me if I'm missing something...pull in clutch while rolling off throttle, once clutch is engaged change gear, disengage clutch while rolling the throttle back open. Any error in that? A click or clunck shouldnt occur even if I maintain the same throttle posotion (which I don't), the bike would just lerch forward. As mentioned in prior post, switching gears is normally I very smooth process, its when I shift at higher rpms that this phenomena occurs. Thanks for helping me brainstorm this.

Would rather feel a click than a clunk. Not exactly sure whats going on with your bike though. There is a perfect rpm to shift at for every gear. Usually will feel like the bike is sucking it right into the next gear. I have always noticed a clunk sensation when shifting at lower rpms on all my bikes. What I consider a click would be when I shift at the sweet spot, upon clutch re-engagement there isnt a speed gap that catches like dumping the clutch and rpm's at around 6k.

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