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First off, if your bike is a 2003, you need a 205 series map, not the 215. Yours is a 1500cc engine and the cams are different from the 1600. ......
cant use a 215 map because that is for a 1600 and i have a 1500
yes you can use 1600, 1500, or the marauder maps. Use what works best for your bike. They will all install fine.
OK guys, I'm researching like crazy here as I can't find a map for the 2002 1500 MS with V&H Big Shots Staggered and a Chuckster Air Intake, so I'm reading reading reading and I come across these conflicting quotes.....so which is it? Yes on 215 maps for a 1500cc or no?
 

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OK guys, I'm researching like crazy here as I can't find a map for the 2002 1500 MS with V&H Big Shots Staggered and a Chuckster Air Intake, so I'm reading reading reading and I come across these conflicting quotes.....so which is it? Yes on 215 maps for a 1500cc or no?
I highly suggest getting your bike Dyno Tuned. My school of thought on this is that no two bikes dyno the same even though they are equiped the same..It's not worth risking the internals by running over lean..Try map 205-017 just to get you down the road to your tuning center.// Dealer, Tuning Center, Dyno Center Lookup //
I'm running Bigshots staggered with the chuckster but because of cam timing and other differences, my map's not compatable
 

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Figured I would ask this question in here instead of making a new thread. Do you guys know if the usb cable with the small end and the normal usb end is special in some way? Or would one of the many cables I have left over from old phones or cameras with the same two ends work just the same?
 

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I used a USB from my old fuji camera,you can use anyone that fits.
Thank you very much for the exact answer I was looking for. Now just to down load the computer software and be prepared for the finally touches to reassembly of the Streak.
 

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This is a great informational thread discussing matching maps to mods and downloadable maps. But every single link within all 14 pages thus far no longer work. Aaarrggghhh!!!

Edit: except the dynojet links which has the general maps.
 

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Well, till I get dyno'd, I'm still curious if anyone running a map for Big Shots and Chuckster could send it to me, I'd greatly appreciate it. It would give something close till I do.
 

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I'm finally biting the bullet and putting an intake and PCIII on the bike. It's due to arrive tomorrow. Anyone got a good map for The spike air filter and HK 2.5 strippers. I need a good starting point.

Hoping to be able to set zero throttle and at least ride it a little after assembly this weekend.
 

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I'm finally biting the bullet and putting an intake and PCIII on the bike. It's due to arrive tomorrow. Anyone got a good map for The spike air filter and HK 2.5 strippers. I need a good starting point.

Hoping to be able to set zero throttle and at least ride it a little after assembly this weekend.
If you are fairly new to the Dynojet products, spend some time on their website, download the needed software and play around with it to get familiar with the control center.
 

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A complete rookie Diamond Jim. What I want is someone to send me a map that works for my set up (I know it won't be perfect, but it will be good enough to plug and play for the weekend) and then I will get down to the task of dialing in my bike.

Plan is to have the bike reassembled and at the car/bike show Saturday night, so that doesn't leave any time to mess around with creating a map.

I saw your write up on dialing in the PCIII and intend to fully utilize them.....

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What!!! no one wants to help me out with a map... HK strippers and spike air cleaner, come on now. I know someone's got something close. Even one of the maps Dynojet provided is close.
 

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What!!! no one wants to help me out with a map... HK strippers and spike air cleaner, come on now. I know someone's got something close. Even one of the maps Dynojet provided is close.
Getting from where you are now to where you want to be is the learning curve that comes with the PCIII. Standard progression for most is to use one of the downloadable maps that is close then street tune it. If you strive for maximum performance, then the dyno tuning is the best way.

Let me look thru what I've got and I'll email you a map that may be close.
 

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Thanks Jim.
 

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Looking for some help, maybe a better map than what I am using. I Bought the spike shaped intake off of eBay and fabricated my own pipes. They are very short pipes and are straight pipes (no baffles). I removed all of the hoses and smogstuff according to the directions someone was nice enough to link to here Smog Stuff Removal The remaining 2 (I guess they're ICS hoses) I marbled or stuck marbles in to block them off. I'm using the M215-003 map (tried the M215-011 which was ok too but not as good) on the meanie. The issue I am having is it seems to be flooding out when I really open up the throttle. Yesterday, in-fact as I was riding back home the thing acted as though it was out of gas but when I got on the throttle I could hear the breather opening up and then a second later it would take off, so it's almost as though my sensor was opening the intake way too far or too much but this is a problem I have been working on for a while now and can't seem to nail down. Also, the bike only gets about 81 miles to a tank and it seems to not be drawing fuel from both cavities of the tank. I never get the low fuel light but it really starts acting up like this at around 81 miles. If anyone can help me with a map or suggestions as to what I have done wrong I would surely appreciate any input. Thanks!
 

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Looking for some help, maybe a better map than what I am using. I Bought the spike shaped intake off of eBay and fabricated my own pipes. They are very short pipes and are straight pipes (no baffles). I removed all of the hoses and smogstuff according to the directions someone was nice enough to link to here Smog Stuff Removal The remaining 2 (I guess they're ICS hoses) I marbled or stuck marbles in to block them off. I'm using the M215-003 map (tried the M215-011 which was ok too but not as good) on the meanie. The issue I am having is it seems to be flooding out when I really open up the throttle. Yesterday, in-fact as I was riding back home the thing acted as though it was out of gas but when I got on the throttle I could hear the breather opening up and then a second later it would take off, so it's almost as though my sensor was opening the intake way too far or too much but this is a problem I have been working on for a while now and can't seem to nail down. Also, the bike only gets about 81 miles to a tank and it seems to not be drawing fuel from both cavities of the tank. I never get the low fuel light but it really starts acting up like this at around 81 miles. If anyone can help me with a map or suggestions as to what I have done wrong I would surely appreciate any input. Thanks!
First, my disclaimer: I'm not an expert, or a professional mechanic. I do have pretty extensive experience with my Mean Streak, and am myself comfortable working on it, and I'm highly mechanically inclined.

That being said, I was just reading through your description of the issues and your experiences. Here's a couple of notes:

The bike only gets about 81 miles to a tank and it seems to not be drawing fuel from both cavities of the tank. I never get the low fuel light but it really starts acting up like this at around 81 miles.
There is only one massive cavity in the tank for fuel. And the fuel pump we have is very good at sucking just about every bit of it out. If you read through some previous threads on the topics of gas/fuel light/gas mileage, you'll find a lot of opinions. My first question related to this: how do you fill your tank? If you were to stick the gas pump nozzle fully into the tank, and only fill till it clicked off, similar to how we fuel an auto/truck, you only have about 1/2 of the fuel the tank is capable of holding. The biggest part of the tank cavity is toward the top. Once the majority of the tank is full, I hold the tip of the nozzle up toward the top and slowly fill until I just have enough room to close the cap. Of course, I only fill like this when I know I'm riding, not just before I park it in the garage.

Second fuel related note: have you verified the "fuel light"-bulb isn't burned out? Have you tried running past the point you think you're low on fuel to see if you can get it to come on?


Ok. Beyond the gas. Try disconnecting your PCIII. You don't have to remove it, just unplug it from the injectors and hook the OEM ones back up. Then go ride it and use that as a comparison to how it's been behaving. If your symptoms don't change, you can eliminate the PCIII as the primary culprit, and start chasing the sensor/smog related issue.
 

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First, my disclaimer: I'm not an expert, or a professional mechanic. I do have pretty extensive experience with my Mean Streak, and am myself comfortable working on it, and I'm highly mechanically inclined.

That being said, I was just reading through your description of the issues and your experiences. Here's a couple of notes:

There is only one massive cavity in the tank for fuel. And the fuel pump we have is very good at sucking just about every bit of it out. If you read through some previous threads on the topics of gas/fuel light/gas mileage, you'll find a lot of opinions. My first question related to this: how do you fill your tank? If you were to stick the gas pump nozzle fully into the tank, and only fill till it clicked off, similar to how we fuel an auto/truck, you only have about 1/2 of the fuel the tank is capable of holding. The biggest part of the tank cavity is toward the top. Once the majority of the tank is full, I hold the tip of the nozzle up toward the top and slowly fill until I just have enough room to close the cap. Of course, I only fill like this when I know I'm riding, not just before I park it in the garage.

Second fuel related note: have you verified the "fuel light"-bulb isn't burned out? Have you tried running past the point you think you're low on fuel to see if you can get it to come on?


Ok. Beyond the gas. Try disconnecting your PCIII. You don't have to remove it, just unplug it from the injectors and hook the OEM ones back up. Then go ride it and use that as a comparison to how it's been behaving. If your symptoms don't change, you can eliminate the PCIII as the primary culprit, and start chasing the sensor/smog related issue.

Conmar,

Great info, thank you. I know how the tank on the Meanie is, this is my 2nd one I've owned since 2007. When the gas clicks off, I do exactly what it sounds like you're doing, I hold the nozzle a little way out of the (fuel nozzle blocker) and let it go for days and days until it's full, I sit on the bike while doing this so it is pretty much straight up and down and then I will wiggle it back and forth a bit until the gas goes down again and then top it off, so, yes, I am filling it completely full.

Fuel light bulb tested, it is working.

I will try disconnecting the PCIII. I have worries about doing that but since it's not going to be a long period of time it should be ok right? Thanks for all the help and suggestions! Very much appreciated.
 

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Conmar,

Great info, thank you. I know how the tank on the Meanie is, this is my 2nd one I've owned since 2007. When the gas clicks off, I do exactly what it sounds like you're doing, I hold the nozzle a little way out of the (fuel nozzle blocker) and let it go for days and days until it's full, I sit on the bike while doing this so it is pretty much straight up and down and then I will wiggle it back and forth a bit until the gas goes down again and then top it off, so, yes, I am filling it completely full.

Fuel light bulb tested, it is working.

I will try disconnecting the PCIII. I have worries about doing that but since it's not going to be a long period of time it should be ok right? Thanks for all the help and suggestions! Very much appreciated.
You're re-connecting the OEM FI system. You can leave power and TPS for the PC connected. This is for comparison purposes. If your issue goes away, its PCIII related. It's just a process of elimination. You also mentioned earlier that this problem happens at a specific mileage from fill-up? But not the rest of the time?
 

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Great advice from Conmar.

Evilone, my first thought was that when you open the throttle you are momentarily too rich. I bet if you used the fine tune buttons on the module and increased the richness of the 2nd button, you'd get even more evidence of too rich such as a stumble and cough when you suddenly opened the throttle. Check your PCIII throttle position sensor readings and check that your accelerator pump feature is turned off. When both of those are done, I'd look at decreasing the map values that are in the 2000-4000 rpm range and at 40%, 60% and 80% throttle position.

The fact that your MPG might be on the lower side might be an additional indication of running rich, mostly in the 2250-3000 rpm ranges at 20% throttle.
 

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Hey Guys could use some info looking for more HP:
Trying to get more HP from my 2005 Meanie 1600.
I have installed
Cobra Long shots
PCIII Usb
Hypercharger
The shop did the Dyno and it only maxed out at 60 HP.
Does anyone have a similar setup and are they getting more horse?
 
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