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To install my Xmas hooters, I need to know if the horn push-button is on the positive lead or on a grounded lead.

Even better, a copy of the existing wiring diagram ? Just the part to do with the horn wiring ?

Thanks a bunch in advance.
 

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It's on a positive. 12V2. 5 Amp.
 

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Scott you are asking is whether the switch is before or after the horn.

A simple method is to draw the circuit, I will detail it draw the battery with the negative to earth, draw an object to look like the horn with two terminals, draw a switch with two terminals, and then draw an oject to look like an earth point

Join the battery to horn to switch to earth.

Now on the bike, disconnect one terminal at a time and connect a wire to the disconnected horn terminal, if the horn functions when the wire from the horn to earth (frame), then the switch is connected after the horn, you may have to try both sides of the horn. Do not press the horn button while you are testing

Making the circuit diagram will show the connections.

let me know through this forum how you got on


Graeme Gould at Byron the most Easterly part of Australia
 

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send me your e-mail address Scott and I'll attach a diagram to a response for you. Send it to me direct.
 

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Scott,

The BR/BK (brown wire with black stripe) is the positive wire and gets 12 volts when the ignition is on.

The BK/W (black wire with white stripe) is the negitive wire. It goes to ground when the ignition is on and the horn button is pressed.

To answer your question "Is the horn push-button on the positive lead or on a grounded lead?" It is on the grounded lead.

Andy
 

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Just took a look to the service manual. Everything's like Andy explained. USA, Australian and European models have the same wiring for the horn. Fuse is 10 Amps. But I have ZR-7S, and manual for S. I think, Andy too.
Scott, you promised pictures of your horn.
 

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Geez, now I'm really confused :) One of you says positive, the other says ground (if I am reading it right).

Pictures are coming, but I haven't installed the hooters yet, so to this point only have photos of them just out of the box. Patience.:)

It looks like the horns will actually attach (just) to the clamp that holds the F-15 fairing mount in place, ie. one on each side of the headlight. But they didn't come with any wiring or plug thingies so I need to get some of those before I go any further.

The email to send anything to is [email protected]

A big thankyou guys !
 

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Scott finally figured out that his new horn didn't need any wires... You just squeeze that black thing. :)



Andy
 

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They're right, I'm wrong. I went back and looked again. But I sent you the diagram in an e-mail so you check it out.
 

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Oh ho ho Andy - I can tell you are just kidding. Thought you could put one over all of us didn't you?

Even though you got the horn arrangement right, I can tell it's not my bike, so you are not as clever as you think you are Mr Smarty Pants. It's really hard to spot, but you know how I know?

My bike is red, not blue.

So this time you are caught out. Makes me wonder, have any of your other pictures been fakes too?

(signed) Scott the Simple (aka the Blunder from Down Under)
 

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Email didn't make it ...

Martin, would you mind sending the diagram again? This time try [email protected]

[I have email addresses like other people have shirts.]
 

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It's on it's way........:cool:
 

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Thanks

Thanks Martin - got it
 

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Did the diagram work o.k. for you Scott?
 

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I've done it !

Hooters installed successfully, and guess what? They sound just like a car horn (and just as loud - much louder than the standard horn). At first I was just a little bit disappointed - I'd hoped for a more obvious or colourful two-tone sort of sound.

But on reflection, it's just right - if some dozey motorist thinks that I'm a car based on what (s)he hears, then that's ideal.

I've taken a number of digital photos and will post them a.s.a.p. (just as soon as I can download the software I need from Kodak's website - left the CD at work ... duh).

Just a couple of hints at this stage ...

1. Once I knew the wiring setup (thanks again everyone who helped here) it was easy. The wiring diagram from Martin emailed nice and clear - I printed it out on A4 and enlarged it on the office photocopier to A3 size.
2. For hookup wire I used some stuff I cut off a dead PC power supply - just the right gauge (looks like it anyway).
3. The hooters tuck in nicely and unobtrusively behind the F-15 screen, just on top of the indicators.

Now I just have to see if my efforts stand up to the rigors of riding.
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Here are the photos ...

First, the installation instructions, which made sense once we had cleared up whether the horn button was on the positive or the ground lead ...

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/installation instructions.jpg

The only place I could find to fit them was via the clamp on the F-15 shield bracket ...

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/shows where RHS horn attached.jpg

Here's what they look like in place (they actually look a little better than this in real life) ...

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/horn on LHS.jpg

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/horn on RHS.jpg

A rider's eye view ...

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/top view of finished installation.jpg

Lastly, before installation - note that the red colour of the horns does not really match the bike; fortunately, the only way they would fit was with the red side facing inwards, which minimises the visual impact from the side ...

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/horns before installation_1 .jpg

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/horns before installation_2 .jpg

http://unite.com.au/~u7061a/horns before installation_3 .jpg
 

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I actually have to use one of my feet, since my right hand is busy with the throttle and brake. I find the counterbalancing effect is better if I use my left foot, which has the added advantage of leaving my right foot free for additional braking effort (given that most of the circumstances which would warrant me using the horn also mean I would want to stop as quickly as possible).

When riding two-up, I ask the passenger to assist with gear changes, since my left foot is usually at the ready for horn duty.



4/1/2001
 

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One of my hooters has stopped working - so it sounds like a motorcycle horn again.

Damn and blast - will have a closer look this weekend. Possibly all the vibration with my recent country riding has shaken something loose.

[Interpret at your own peril. :D]
 
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