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as the thread top says I had to replace my guage cluster lights so i figured i'd go with LED's as opposed to just reg. bulbs 'cuz i thought i might save myself some power to run other accessories...the 2 lights that were burned out made it so i was no longer able to see how fast i was going in the dark if i went above about 130kph and the light that made the fuel meter light up went out so i couldn't really see how much was in the tank without reading the trip meter...

since i had the entire front fairing apart for re-gluing and putting on the new windshield, figured it was a good time a time as any to put on my piaa super plasma headlight and replace all my guage lights with LED bulbs, the original bulbs themselves say they are either 1.7w or 3.4w (4x1.7 and 4x3.4) - the 3.4w bulbs were being used by the turn signal indicators, neutral and high beam indicator...

when i went down to the local ricer supply store they said they were only 0.8-0.9W per LED bulb, of course it also says that on the back of package i'm guessing at it since in japanese, i only recognized the 0.8->0.9W labels, bought 3 packages of the super whites and 2 packages of them in super-green....green for the turn signals and neutral light, stuck a super white into the highbeam indicator.... so with that i get super long lasting lights and a savings of 0.8x4 and 2.6x4 = 13.6W of total power, cool...

here's some pics, enjoy...




pic 1: here's the package and the original bulb next to the LED bulb






pic 2: i pulled out the bulb from the guage and this is how bright it was, its not bad actually but if you were holding it in your hand you can see how much duller it is by comparison to the led bulb...







pic 3: here's a pic of the super-white led, very intense light, the super green is the same intensity just in green






pic 4: here's a pic of the lights installed into the guage cluster, i apologize to all since i didn't take a before shot, if someone would be kind enought to take a before shot that would be much appreciated, anyway you can see it leaves a nice blue tinge to the lights, looks alot better in the dark too

 

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Chiller:

Those look pretty damn good. Since I'm going to bike show tomorrow, I'm sure that someone will have them there. Add another item to my shopping list.
 

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They do look good. I'd heard that LED lights did not work good in gauge clusters because the light is does not cover a wide area. That myth looks debunked.
 

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MartyM said:
Chiller:

Those look pretty damn good. ....... Add another item to my shopping list.
+ ++++ one

my speedo is so dark, I have to get up to almost 100kph before I know I'm moving :woot:
 

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50+ one of your bulbs is burned out, the bottom part of the speedo on your left, LOL, mine was like that but for the one near the 120kph mark 'cuz at 130kph and up i wouldn't see until i was up near 170kph....
 

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They do look good. I'd heard that LED lights did not work good in gauge clusters because the light is does not cover a wide area. That myth looks debunked.
the myth holds try depending on the led bulb you get, if you get one that is focus'ed straight out (and they had a bunch like that at the rice store) but if you get one that spreads the light out you will get a better distribution of light on your guage cluster...its the plastic shape that is on top of the led itself that will affect the light distribution off the led...
 

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chiller said:
the myth holds try depending on the led bulb you get, if you get one that is focus'ed straight out (and they had a bunch like that at the rice store) but if you get one that spreads the light out you will get a better distribution of light on your guage cluster...its the plastic shape that is on top of the led itself that will affect the light distribution off the led...
If you could supply a pic of the type of bulb I should look for, that would help my feeble mind. Thanks for letting me know I had a light out, even with standard bulbs I thought it should be brighter than that!
 

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if you get one that is focus'ed straight out (and they had a bunch like that at the rice store) but if you get one that spreads the light out you will get a better distribution of light on your guage cluster...its the plastic shape that is on top of the led itself that will affect the light distribution off the led...
I've found 2 different linds of LED dash bulbs on superlumination.com that spread the light to the side and not as a beam.

The cheaper ($2.49) 1 LED bulb.


And the more expensive ($6.99) model with 1 forward facing led plus 4 side facing LED's.
 

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Would you be so kind as to tell us how many bulbs of each colour were required in total? Would there be a space issue, if I were to use a multi led white bulb for better dispersion?
 

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it depends on the bulb type you get, the one i got is in the first pic, it looks like the first white one that sf frank found on that other site, tho mine were tons more expensive, 16 buxs for a pack of 2...i dunno that a wider bulb will fit as these fit in nice and snug, i guess you'll have to try it and let us know.
 

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chiller said:
the one i got is in the first pic, it looks like the first white one that sf frank found on that other site, tho mine were tons more expensive, 16 buxs for a pack of 2
I also found them Here for $12/pair.

And a set of lights that have 4 leds Here for about $5 each.

The price can really vary. I don't know the difference between the cheap ones and the expensive ones.

The one's chiller got may be brighter than the one's I found on the website. That may explain the added cost.
 

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the original pic 4 was in partial daylight and so it shows up very bright there, which is very good and nice, but i wanted to let you guys see what it looks like in complete darkness in the garage, brighter in person then in the pics...but not so bright that it would be annoyingly bright...to me they almost look like the indiglo guages but not as brightly light as those ones... enjoy





 

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This is great. I have talked to a couple of other ZR7 owners about how dim the cluster lights appear. Their lights were as weak as mine so I just thought, there has to be a fix for this. BINGO, here is this thread.
Thanks, I'm going shopping.
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Chiller, how do you like the PIAA headlights? I can't decide if I should do the relay kit or just throw in a brighter bulb. Also, I just ordered 10 of the white LEDs off eBay from a vendor in Hong Kong. They only cost about $14 (for all 10) and look exactly like the picture here so I figured I'd give them a try. I don't need all 10 and tend to lose things when I "save them for later" so if anyone is interested in 5 of them send me a PM.
 

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mc33 said:
Chiller, how do you like the PIAA headlights? I can't decide if I should do the relay kit or just throw in a brighter bulb. Also, I just ordered 10 of the white LEDs off eBay from a vendor in Hong Kong. They only cost about $14 (for all 10) and look exactly like the picture here so I figured I'd give them a try. I don't need all 10 and tend to lose things when I "save them for later" so if anyone is interested in 5 of them send me a PM.
i like the piaa, this is my 2nd bulb, what i find is that they don't have very much bulb life, as in a regular headlight would last me say 20k before it vibrated itself to death, the piaa's only last me about 12k but are brighter...
 

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mc33 said:
Chiller, how do you like the PIAA headlights? I can't decide if I should do the relay kit or just throw in a brighter bulb.
Why not do both?
 

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Why not do both?
Yeah, I would except my wife is still asking me what the big box in our closet is. She probably thinks it's something for her, but, it's my new exhaust. Anyway, I don't do much night riding so I was wondering if the bright bulbs are a good enough solution for now. Also, I don't know how they work, but if enough people are going to do the relay kit, is it possible to do a group buy? Chiller, thanks for the info on the LEDs. My speedo lights were driving me nuts.
 

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An update on the wide angle multi-LED bulbs mentioned earlier in this thread. It is quite unlikely they will fit. The diameter of the standard glass bulb is 10mm, while these LED's are 14mm in diameter.
 
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