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Got a 2018 on order!

Sup guys and gals.. this is my second year riding. I started last year on a 2017 R3.. put 2800 miles on it then another 1000 miles on a 2016 CBR650F. Sold both those bikes and now I have a blue 2018 Ninja 650 on order. Curious to see how I will like the Ninja.. biggest being loss of power between the I4 and parallel twin. Or maybe it will not matter.. I am 39 and do not ride aggressive.. hell that R3 was even fine at first but the CBR was like night and day. Seems like the twin might even be better for normal riding say 0-75mph? Thoughts? I am also a larger guy.. 6' 270 so be interesting to see how the Ninja compares there as well.

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Yes, I am very curious to hear your thoughts on the CBR650F vs '18 N650. All I know are the paper stats, CBR is heavier and more powerful. I don't think the N650 twin is going to outgun the CBR at any point in the rev range ... but the CBR has 10% taller first gear, so the lighter Ninja is going to slightly squirt ahead from 0 to 40 mph w/casual start, but it's a lost cause after that CBR will rip by and you'll never see him again. The N650 isn't slow through about 100 really, but the CBR goes much quicker at the top end. But going fast isn't everything (there's always something faster), which is why I opted for the lighter bike with twin character. I had an R3 also, but imho on the freeway it's not really in its element power-wise.
 

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Yeah I will let you know. I did have not the 650F long and barely even hit redline. So any additional power to be had (top end of example) I never even really utilized. Like I said, I am pretty conservative rider so I doubt I will even really notice difference between I4 and twin. I suspect the twin will not sound as good as the I4 though. Will have to fix with a Yoshi or Akrapovic exhaust. :p

Obviously there was a huge difference coming from the R3. That was such a great starter bike. Lots of margin for error of course. My biggest issue with that bike was highway riding. It was all over the place given ho light it is. That it it sounded like an electric weed whacker. Ha. Even being a big guy, the power was fine for starting out.. but if I were to do it over I would have just went with a 650 like many told me.. LOL. But that 650F might have been too much bike given the power and weight.. but it's not like it's a 600RR ot liter bike. Truth be told, I would love a Ducati. I just do not like the price and everyone I talk to tells me how uncomfortable they are. I commute with my bike which is 80 miles round trip and an hour each way depending on traffic.
 

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I went to the dealer with the intention of ordering the blue Ninja 650 too as reminded me a bit of my first big bike a fully faired sv650s. However after seeing a black model at the dealer I decided to go with that instead. It is a great bike and I am sure you will enjoy racking up the miles. When is it due?
 

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Yeah I too looked at a Ducati Supersport before buying the N650. I passed on the Duc because the seating was fairly aggressive, price, and literally everyone calls out that the rear cylinder under the seat is crazy hot. CBR650F is still on my short list to buy one of those used one day -- probably a one year affair then sell. Was there something you didn't like about the Honda that pushed you to tentatively trade for the N650 so quickly?
 

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Dealer said the N650 should arrive within two weeks. I am in MN though so riding season is still a few months out. I got the ABS version with OEM frame sliders, tanks guards, cover and cig lighter. After $500 Kawi cash and the accessories I am about $8200 out the door.

Ha.. I was wondering if someone would ask why I got rid of the 650F. Not by choice. It was a great bike. I actually bought it with my ex, she was on the title.. see where I am going here? LOL. We split and she would not agree to sell it to me (spiteful) so had to sell it outright to a 3rd party. Was a mess. So dumb. I was going to get another.. But I think the N650 will be a better fit and then fell in love with the new 2018 blue.. plus I miss the gear indicator.. And it helps my Shoei RF-1200 is blue. :p But again, I am curious to see how noticeable he less power will be to me. But I know it is not as simple as hp numbers and we are not exactly comparing apples to apples.
 

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FYI that power socket is only good for low current like phones and sat navs. I tried running my tyre inflator but the fuse blew straight away. Maybe you know that anyway.

I test rode a CBR650F 3 years back when I was looking for a new bike but did not like the engine at all as felt very buzzy for want of a better word. Ended up with a total different bike in the end, a Ducati Scrambler which is my bike for shorter trips on country roads. The n650 is for longer day rides and trips. I am at a point where these 2 bikes is all I need :)
 

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Good to know. I was not aware of that, thanks for the tip. I only plan to charge my cell phone anyway so no big deal. Ridiculous it is a $80 option. But whatever...

You can have more than one bike? What? :p Game changer!

I am stoked to to get the bike. I will keep you guys updated.
 

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Congrats on the new bike! Sorry about the marriage.

I suspect that the difference between the twin engine on the Ninja 650 and the four on the CBR 650 F may come down to where in the rev band you get the most power--lower on the Ninja which helps in city traffic and higher up on the CBR for highway passing. I've not noticed any reluctance when passing on the highway with my 2007, but I also haven't ridden the CBR so I can't directly compare the two. Let us know what you think when you give an update.
 

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Well luckily ex and I were not married and no kids. Dealer said the bike should be in any day. Can't wait. I did end up getting the paint matched Kawi rear cowl as well. I think I will appreciate the twin more. I do not ride aggressive often and when I do it is from lower speeds\gears.

I honestly do not think I ever even came close to even hitting the rev limiter on the 650F. The bike actually scared me a little. But I'll be 40 this year, yikes, and ride conservative. I can't imagine a RR liter bike. The N650 should be an interesting comparison. Especially when the bike before the 650F was the R3, my first bike. I still have the R3 actually. I am selling it though. It is bittersweet. The R3 was such a great starter bike. Super light and still enough power to satisfy while learning. And I am a big guy at 270lbs. It was forgiving enough for when you made a mistake. No accidental wheelies there! My only real complaint with it was highway riding (and it sounded like a weed whacker). It was all over the place given the light weight. Truthfully, if I was in a position were I had to keep only the R3 I would not be mad.

For the N650, in additional to Kawi accessories, I ordered venom bike stands, Atom spools, RAM mount and Vagabond fender eliminator. I am conflicted on an exhaust. But if I do get one it will likely be a Yoshi. I just do not want to deal with having to get a power commander and tuning. So we will see.. I suspect the N650 can't sound worse than the R3 but likely will not sound as good as the I4.
 

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I read a recent review in a magazine. I agree with their findings that the N650 felt faster off the mark then the CBR though they did state the CBR would eventually catch and pass it. I much prefer the engine on the N650 as for me that real nice spread of torque and low down pull suits my riding style better :)
 

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Right on. Well stopped by the dealer yesterday as the bike came in. Love it! Now if the damn weather would cooperate!
 

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Right on. Well stopped by the dealer yesterday as the bike came in. Love it! Now if the damn weather would cooperate!
It's beautiful! I have it in black, but blue sure was tempting. I love how it looks. And I'm sure you're going to love the bike. I've done a ton of DIYs for the 2017+ Ninja 650 in case they are of any use to you. In any case, we'll be happy to hear about how everything goes for you.
 

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Thanks guys! Picking up the bike on Friday. And the weather looks good for this weekend. Score! I still need to figure out a phone mount. I want to use RAM and I see StormTopperNinja has a YouTube video.. any other ideas?
 

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I still need to figure out a phone mount. I want to use RAM and I see StormTopperNinja has a YouTube video.. any other ideas?
IMHO the best option is like in this Ninja 650 smartphone holder DIY. Personally, I definitely think the 15 minutes it takes to tap a thread for a ball mount is worth it. Plenty of people have done it. It almost looks OEM. But if you wanna go the easy route the steering stem plug (which just bolts on) is also an option. It's all explained there. There's also one on how to install a smartphone dash charger in the OEM location on the dash using the original wires.
 

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IMHO the best option is like in this Ninja 650 smartphone holder DIY. Personally, I definitely think the 15 minutes it takes to tap a thread for a ball mount is worth it. Plenty of people have done it. It almost looks OEM. But if you wanna go the easy route the steering stem plug (which just bolts on) is also an option. It's all explained there. There's also one on how to install a smartphone dash charger in the OEM location on the dash using the original wires.
Thanks.. yeah I had found your DIY right after posting. I like it, just not sure I am comfortable tapping the hole.. giggity. I ended up paying the $85 or whatever it was for the OEM charger option, doh.. lol.
 

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Your bike looks sharp, and you look happy. Now for the snow to melt.

Since you're a northern neighbor, you may want to consider heated grips. Best thing in the spring & fall, and also cool summer mornings. Mine are two level Moose Bros., but if I were doing this today, I'd probably use the Oxford five level heated grips as they look easier to install.
 
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