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    Shocks, 09 650r recommendation advise

    hey all, looking to keep my 09 650r so time for a shock, possibly cartridges. i'm about 220 out of the shower.
    thinking the progressive 428 ($350), yss ($350?), entry ohlins ($600), nitron R1 ($700), not sure about wanting to jump up to the next range, 900-1k penske 8983, nitron R2, other double clickers.

    i've put some miles on my stock setup, rear shock 1 down from max preload , definitely rideable but soft and harsh. Street is the primary, possible 1 casual track day a year .
    my kawasaki concours 14 had ak20 and a 8983 shock, but struggling with tossing that $$ into the 650.

    could do a nitron R1 shock, with Andreani fully adjustable fork kit, would be over $1300 for both.
    my forks are flush per the service manual, but thinking of dropping them 10mm, could try that first, but it wont correct the shock spring being soft. and spending $$ on a spring only i might as well do the progressive or yss shock,

    Not sure about ordering a used Versys or R1 shock, ebay has some options.
    Any help or thoughts would be great, and very much appreciated.
    Thanks for the time
    Joel

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    I've got a progressive on the rear and progressive springs in the front. Night and day difference on the rear and much more stable in the front. I'm still looking to do a USD conversion of the front end, but the springs have helped a ton. I love the rear progressive setup. This has been the single best upgrade to the bike in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smknkeyz View Post
    I've got a progressive on the rear and progressive springs in the front. Night and day difference on the rear and much more stable in the front. I'm still looking to do a USD conversion of the front end, but the springs have helped a ton. I love the rear progressive setup. This has been the single best upgrade to the bike in my opinion.
    Nice, one of these??
    https://www.progressivesuspension.co...8-series-shock

    My front doesn't feel terrible, I think the 09 had a stiffer spring up front.
    Thanks so much for the information. Price wise the progressive and yss are attractive ,

    Thank you again for the time and information, much appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS_racer View Post
    Nice, one of these??
    https://www.progressivesuspension.co...8-series-shock

    My front doesn't feel terrible, I think the 09 had a stiffer spring up front.
    Thanks so much for the information. Price wise the progressive and yss are attractive ,

    Thank you again for the time and information, much appreciated
    Thats the one. I'm 180lbs and it works perfect with the weight setup I chose when ordering. I also take the lady out 2up without issue as well.
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    Hmm, i see 2 lengths, but no spring option. Sounds like it can be an option
    Appreciate the info , thank you.

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    Progressive got bought a few years back I believe, so they're now made by a company called Performance Machine. When I ordered from progressive, they asked ride height and weight, and had specific part #'s for ranges of rider weight. I'm not sure if they still offer different weight setups now or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smknkeyz View Post
    Progressive got bought a few years back I believe, so they're now made by a company called Performance Machine. When I ordered from progressive, they asked ride height and weight, and had specific part #'s for ranges of rider weight. I'm not sure if they still offer different weight setups now or not.
    progressive one size fits all now, in short or stock shock length. Now they seem super hard to find.
    the yss for 425 or so, 1 spring for all, close to my weight, tic over, emulsion, no separation for laying it sideways. sell says no issue.
    ohlins, i think is stock valving for all on the $600 shock with spring options
    Nitron, $700 valved for rider, spring for rider, rebound adjustment, but marketed as both rebound and compression in 1
    900$ + remote , not sure i want to be up in this range on this bike

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    I Spent the $700 for the Nitron sprung and valved for my weight - I also put Race tech Emulators in the front - again for my 250lb 6'3" fat..arse.

    At first, I was wondering why I spent the $. After a trip to the Dragon and other places - way more fun, way more feel, much more comfortable. I requested the Nitron be set up for spirited urban riding as I commute.

    Is it worth the money? Only you can decide that.

    I am thrilled with what I did and have absolutely no complaints other than.... damn that was expensive. You get what you pay for... and yep - I have a 2009 - Black... THE fastest color.....

    Would I do it again? Hmmm - I think if I was willing to spend more - I'd get a Ninja 1000 set up with the bags.......then again that is part of this 'sickeness/addiction' isn't it? This week, the next bike is a N1k Next week, it's a street triple..... meh!

    Since I'm a cheap old fart - yeah, I'd do it again.

    Last, get good tires. I was running Shinko Ravens. Great tire for the price. Last time I got Michelin Power Pilot 3s (yep it's been a while now) MAJOR difference - Again!. Since they aren't available anymore, as I understand it, I'll prolly go for Michelin Road 5s..... Others that have experience can chime in on those....

    Good luck!
    Wow - that's Cool!

    No really Officer, I wasn't riding too fast - I was flying too low

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    excellent, thank you for the information on the nitron.
    tires are s21 sitting here for a tn/nc trip

    my other bike is a new fjr with electronic suspension, so that one is fun too. (trailer guy, not a slabbing guy)

    did the front make a ginormous difference, or was the rear the main improvement ??
    i feel the rear is very soft, 1 click from the top preload stock. front seems to work, debating the nitron and running the front,
    or i'll swap bars, drop the front 5-10mm and see what that does.

    thanks again
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    After I did the rear suspension I noticed how bad the front was. So, after less than a week I ordered progressive springs and race tech emulators for the front. This helped, but i still notice the deficiency in the front. So, I'll be looking for a USD conversion setup sooner than later.
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    Could do cartridges, Andreani has 1, like 600. Fast bike industries is the retailer

    Well, bought sport bars today, so that might shift a tic of weight,

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    I don't know if I'm too late. Granted my Ninja 650 is a 2018 model. I've just had the rear shock and front fork kit installed at YSS factory in Thailand. The result is amazing. Very firm and handled damaged roads remarkably well. I'm certain that you'll be happy with YSS suspensions improvement.

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    Well, my suspension is on its way back to me , should be here monday!!
    i went with a Nirton R2 rear shock with remote reservoir , double clicker, and for the front i went with the Andreani Cartridge Kit

    should be a nice change, expensive for sure. Should make for a nice setup. Then after i install and shake down, i can ride over to the company location, to recheck sag, and shake down. That will be a nice touch too, making sure i'm in the zone for adjustments, then i can click some more myself.

    the yss shock could have, and sounds like a nice option, glad your enjoying your setup. Thanks for sharing your results as well.
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