Are the z forks the same as the zx9r?

Have you tried bleeding the banjo bolt at the master cylinder ? Use rag to avoid paint damage. It is common to get an air bubble there that makes it hard to bleed the brakes properly. Good luck to you. There are a few ZRX guys that live in the Montreal area. Do you know any of them ? One guy (groovydoobie) is real good at wheelies and has a bike covered with astroturf.

Originally Posted by lmj301

Are the z forks the same as the zx9r?

I don't know about the forks but the 02-03 ZX9R calipers are the same as the 03-06 Z1000 calipers. They use the same brake pad at least.

Originally Posted by schmoo

Have you tried bleeding the banjo bolt at the master cylinder ? Use rag to avoid paint damage. It is common to get an air bubble there that makes it hard to bleed the brakes properly. Good luck to you. There are a few ZRX guys that live in the Montreal area. Do you know any of them ? One guy (groovydoobie) is real good at wheelies and has a bike covered with astroturf.

I'm gonna bleed everything, I installed some braided lines 2 years ago, it made a difference, but it still isn't as good as my '98 zx9. I don't think the forks are the same, but the caliper bolt pattern is...

No, I haven't met or seen anyone from this site, i'm actually in the suburbs of Montreal, about 20 ish miles west!

Originally Posted by Zilver

I'm gonna bleed everything, I installed some braided lines 2 years ago, it made a difference, but it still isn't as good as my '98 zx9. I don't think the forks are the same, but the caliper bolt pattern is...

No, I haven't met or seen anyone from this site, i'm actually in the suburbs of Montreal, about 20 ish miles west!

The 00-03 zx9r, 00-02 zx6r Master cylinders are IMO one of the best upgrades for the z1000 front brakes. I swapped the M/C after maybe 4000 miles and when I got my zx10r... I was jealous of my Z1000 brakes and the short throw of the lever. I finally got the zx10r brakes fixed but eventually swapped over all the parts from different zx models to fix it.
The stock ZED calipers are great.. even with stock rubber lines. But you have to do something with the M/C if you want some confindence in having stopping power.
All the older zx6r and zx9r M/C are in Black and will say 5/8" on the side of them, that is the piston diameter so roughly 17MM. Great size for the z1000.

Just to list the crap master cylinders from other ZX models for other members to be informed about.
The 03-04 zx6r and 04-05 zx10r comes in a goldish color both are complete garbage. Will say 14mm on side of M/C... STAY AWAY!!!!
Any radial M/C from Kawasaki is great.. the 05-06 zx6r came in a gold color those years then switched to black. Same goes for the 06-10 zx10r and 06-10 zx14 all have great radial M/C in Black. Will say 19mm or 17mm depending on what year you bought. I think Kawasaki went to 17mm on the zx6r in 07' but could be wrong.

that is awesome porn, thanks

Dunn if anyone can help me here, I have a Z750s with 2 pot Tokico calipers. Tried to strip these down over new year, but found retaining bolts siezed up and virtually impossible to remove without chewing up bolt head. Bought a pair of newer nissin type calipers off a crashed bike ( 08 model) which have same mounting bolt centres, but use a smaller diameter bolt. Can anyone tell me if I can buy bots to fit the existing fork but have a smaller diameter thread yo fit the newer caliper, or will I have to insert a bush ito the existing fork?

Thanks for the input, I trust your opinion, I've read your comments/posts before, and they're interesting; I'll look for one of those M/C's; also the calipers I have are 6 pots from a 2001 gsxr 1000, the gold coloured ones...
You think this will be a good/better combination than what I have now?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by GOODRODE

The 00-03 zx9r, 00-02 zx6r Master cylinders are IMO one of the best upgrades for the z1000 front brakes. I swapped the M/C after maybe 4000 miles and when I got my zx10r... I was jealous of my Z1000 brakes and the short throw of the lever. I finally got the zx10r brakes fixed but eventually swapped over all the parts from different zx models to fix it.
The stock ZED calipers are great.. even with stock rubber lines. But you have to do something with the M/C if you want some confindence in having stopping power.
All the older zx6r and zx9r M/C are in Black and will say 5/8" on the side of them, that is the piston diameter so roughly 17MM. Great size for the z1000.

Just to list the crap master cylinders from other ZX models for other members to be informed about.
The 03-04 zx6r and 04-05 zx10r comes in a goldish color both are complete garbage. Will say 14mm on side of M/C... STAY AWAY!!!!
Any radial M/C from Kawasaki is great.. the 05-06 zx6r came in a gold color those years then switched to black. Same goes for the 06-10 zx10r and 06-10 zx14 all have great radial M/C in Black. Will say 19mm or 17mm depending on what year you bought. I think Kawasaki went to 17mm on the zx6r in 07' but could be wrong.

Hi there
I`ve had my 6 pots split for re-painting, pistons out wrapped in rags & in a box for nearly a year (i said i was slow) & i`ve noticed how the alloy has re-grown oxide crystals after cleaning within that year ( i do look at them occasionally) in comparison to other alloy parts i have in storage, its been a fast re-growth. When i stripped these calipers i noticed a few of the seals were stuck & not free floating as the bores of the grooves for the seals were no longer smooth & i suspect this is the source of the poor performance/negative comments i read about these brakes. I think the secret to success with these calipers will be a once a year split/blow out the pistons & clean the grooves, seals & o rings & then rebuild using red rubber grease on the pistons & seals-keeping everything as new. Regarding the bleeding i have bleed bolts on both calipers on my Z1000, as i have found getting the system to fill & be air free is difficult using the radial master cylinder, but with the bleed bolts you have a total of 5 nipples in the system to get the bubbles out....you do need patients though but the results are rock hard brakes...nice!

Hi there
I`ve had my 6 pots split for re-painting, pistons out wrapped in rags & in a box for nearly a year (i said i was slow) & i`ve noticed how the alloy has re-grown oxide crystals after cleaning within that year ( i do look at them occasionally) in comparison to other alloy parts i have in storage, its been a fast re-growth. When i stripped these calipers i noticed a few of the seals were stuck & not free floating as the bores of the grooves for the seals were no longer smooth & i suspect this is the source of the poor performance/negative comments i read about these brakes. I think the secret to success with these calipers will be a once a year split/blow out the pistons & clean the grooves , seals & o rings very thoroughly & then rebuild using red rubber grease on the pistons & seals-keeping everything as new. Regarding the bleeding i have bleed bolts on both calipers on my Z1000, as i have found getting the system to fill & be air free is difficult especially since using the radial master cylinder, but with the bleed bolts you have a total of 5 nipples in this system to get the bubbles out....you do need patients though getting the initial fill with the fluid but the results are rock hard powerfull brakes...nice!

I've tried bleeding the master and both calipers, and my lever is far from firm; it seems to have a lot of travel, and then gets a little "harder". I've bled brakes inthe past, but I can't seem to get a really firm lever.

I just realized that I can't install the 6 pots until I get a new master; mine says 5/8 on it, but that's only about 15mm or 16mm, wouldn't an 18, 19 or 20 mm be best?

I rode my old 1988 katana 600; which a friend of mine still has, and I have to admit that the brake lever feel is 10 times better than my Z1K; actual braking performance is another story, but the lever is very firm.

What gives??? I'm really looking forward to trying my 6 pots soon!

Z

I've finally got everything on, and it was a pain in the butt to bleed. I'm not even sure they're properly bled, they still seem a little soft though; not as firm as I remember them on my zx9.

It's not the difference I was expecting, maybe I'll try putting back the 4 pots with the zx10 radial master I have.

I've never bled this type of setup, but I've done plenty of regular brake bleeding, both cars , and bikes.

Anybody have the zx10 or equivalent master radial brake system bleeding instructions, maybe I missed something. I bled the calipers first, and them the master bleed nipple last, I assume the air willmove up to this bleed nipple?

Just some info but if you read the "pro" reviews of the 2002 ZX-9R they talk about how the 4 pot calipers were a major upgrade over the 6 pots of the previous model. And the Z brakes are the same 4 pots that were on the 02 ZX-9R (I bike I used to own and very much miss)

My zx9 was a 1998, with 6 pots stock; I also miss it, but $1400.00 a year for registration is insane, my Z1K is not considered a sport bike here, so it "only" costs me $630.00 a year instead!

I never really liked the brakes on my Z1K, and I can still recall the awesome feeling on my zx9, maybe there was/is a problem with my setup from the factory.

Like I mentionned before, I'll try the radial master with my 4 pots, I'm kinda disapointed, because those 6 pots look great.

Originally Posted by dynagrego

You don't need to grab off another bike.
Kawasaki gives two different part numbers for the same left handlebar switch(photo).
One of these has the pass button you need.You have to pay about 110$ for a new one but you can try on european ebay.

Or Australian ebay. We have them too