crankcase cover, clutch cover, what is it really??

vastoholic · 03-25-09, 11:03 PM

***EDIT*** I am actually replacing the clutch cover, so any information or comments made after 21 APRIL 2009 should be regarding to the clutch cover ***\EDIT***

I appreciate the responses to the original question, but I misunderstood the parts lady at the kawi dealer when she said what part was needed.

Billet Z1K · 03-26-09, 06:30 AM

Crankcase cover.
Nothing (loose) behind there but a thimble full of oil. There is a O ring that fits into a grove in the cover. Pops right out to install into the new one.
I hope Kawi didn't get to you too bad for a factory one....there is going to be a nice sale on some custom ones real soon

Gary

Billet Z1K · 03-26-09, 09:26 AM

A picture is worth a thousand..or so words.

KXonZ · 03-26-09, 11:55 AM

Kudos billet, thats dedication.

vastoholic · 03-26-09, 02:55 PM

thank you very much. I wish I would have about that sale because I ordered one for $170 through kawi. That hurt a bit. But oh well. I'll worry about more bling later.

z1000pwnr · 03-26-09, 03:49 PM

wow 170 thats a 30 dollar piece...ronayers.com

Billet Z1K · 03-26-09, 05:17 PM

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I ordered one for $170 through kawi.

Dude...I assume you got that through a dealer..tell them to cancel it..even if it means a restocking charge. You will still come out ahead.
Or have them keep the money and use it towards tires or something else.
Gary

vastoholic · 03-26-09, 08:11 PM

holy crap I got ripped. yeah, they called today to say it was in, but I couldn't make it back from work in time to get there, so I'll go over tomorrow and get some of my money back.

vastoholic · 03-27-09, 02:30 PM

ok so i really am a dumbass. the cramkcase cover is the forward most point that i noticed oil on so i assumed it was`that piece that they ordered. I misunderstood them i guess because when i picked up the piece it is the actual clutch cover. I decided to ask her how much the crankcase cover would be just to compare and it was only $24.

dennis14685 · 03-29-09, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vastoholic

ok so i really am a dumbass. the cramkcase cover is the forward most point that i noticed oil on so i assumed it was`that piece that they ordered. I misunderstood them i guess because when i picked up the piece it is the actual clutch cover. I decided to ask her how much the crankcase cover would be just to compare and it was only $24.

You may just need a new gasket and silikon sealer, before you change a cover..............

dennis14685 · 03-29-09, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vastoholic

And what should I know about replacing it. I couldn't find anything detailing it in the service manual and I haven't seen too much on here either (at least with pictures to make sure I know they are talking about the same thing). I may have a hair line fracture in it causing a slight leak so I ordered a new one. Just wondering if there is anything I should know before diving into this. Small pieces flying out. Some of the things I found when searching mentioned being held on by a magnet. Is this the same thing they were talking about? I'm pretty unfamiliar with engine mechanics but want to stay away from taking it into the kawi dealer for little things that I could do myself.

That cover looks ok, try tighterning the bolts a little bit and see if that solves the problem. if that does not work take of the cover and inspect the 2 matted surfaces for scoring or bad marks.....if there ok clean them up, get a new gasket apply silikon bond and all will be ok. That cover does not undergo many forces, it should be fine

Billet Z1K · 03-29-09, 07:05 AM

No gasket or sealer on this one. It has a O ring for sealing. Plus there is hardly any oil behind that cover..unless maybe its been on its side for a while...but not in normal operation. Maybe a thimble full at the most.
Gary

Jason 306 · 03-29-09, 07:24 AM

Unless you've wrecked, I find it highly unlikely that your cover is cracked. Can you physically see a crack? I have a feeling a new o-ring gasket would probably cure your problem. I would of tried that first before ordering a new cover.

vastoholic · 04-22-09, 09:12 AM

Well I'm actually replacing the clutch cover now and I ordered all of the little parts to go inside of it. My question now is:

What is the best way to those bearings for the release shaft into position? That is only problem I'm running into right now. Everything else is going smoothly.

Also if a mod could change the title of this thread to just "Clutch Cover Replacement" or something along those lines, I think it would be better. I'm wondering if I should just take it into the Kawi place and have them hammer them into place, but I don't want to pay labor fees.

vastoholic · 04-22-09, 02:54 PM

uh, oh. As I want tightening the bolts, I accidently over torqued one of them (the one that hold the clutch cable and release in place) and stripped the interior screws. I had applied the blue lock tight on them, but I'm afraid of vibration causing this one to come out still. Is there anything I can do fix this, at least with out replacing the entire clutch housing?

03-25-09, 11:03 PM	#1
vastoholic Rising Star Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 270	crankcase cover, clutch cover, what is it really?? *EDIT* I am actually replacing the clutch cover, so any information or comments made after 21 APRIL 2009 should be regarding to the clutch cover *\EDIT* I appreciate the responses to the original question, but I misunderstood the parts lady at the kawi dealer when she said what part was needed. Last edited by vastoholic : 04-22-09 at 02:55 PM.

03-26-09, 06:30 AM	#2
Billet Z1K Authorized Vendor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colo Posts: 1,065	Crankcase cover. Nothing (loose) behind there but a thimble full of oil. There is a O ring that fits into a grove in the cover. Pops right out to install into the new one. I hope Kawi didn't get to you too bad for a factory one....there is going to be a nice sale on some custom ones real soon Gary __________________ '03 Z 1000 '07 1400 Ninja '08 VTX 1800 N '08 Brute Force '09 650 Ninja

03-26-09, 11:55 AM	#4
KXonZ El Controlador Join Date: May 2006 Location: Monterey Bay Posts: 1,068	Kudos billet, thats dedication. __________________ The act of riding is a form of meditation, because the concentration that's required to safely ride a motorcycle tends to focus the mind in a way that eliminates other mental distractions that might interfere with the mission. This creates a single-mindedness that, in effect, displaces the continuous stream of thoughts that normally flow through our consciousness.

03-29-09, 07:05 AM	#12
Billet Z1K Authorized Vendor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colo Posts: 1,065	No gasket or sealer on this one. It has a O ring for sealing. Plus there is hardly any oil behind that cover..unless maybe its been on its side for a while...but not in normal operation. Maybe a thimble full at the most. Gary __________________ '03 Z 1000 '07 1400 Ninja '08 VTX 1800 N '08 Brute Force '09 650 Ninja

03-29-09, 07:24 AM	#13
Jason 306 Supreme Being Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newark, Ohio Posts: 1,098	Unless you've wrecked, I find it highly unlikely that your cover is cracked. Can you physically see a crack? I have a feeling a new o-ring gasket would probably cure your problem. I would of tried that first before ordering a new cover. __________________

03-26-09, 02:55 PM	#5
vastoholic Rising Star Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 270	thank you very much. I wish I would have about that sale because I ordered one for $170 through kawi. That hurt a bit. But oh well. I'll worry about more bling later.

03-26-09, 03:49 PM	#6
z1000pwnr Site Elder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 500	wow 170 thats a 30 dollar piece...ronayers.com

03-26-09, 08:11 PM	#8
vastoholic Rising Star Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 270	holy crap I got ripped. yeah, they called today to say it was in, but I couldn't make it back from work in time to get there, so I'll go over tomorrow and get some of my money back.

03-27-09, 02:30 PM	#9
vastoholic Rising Star Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 270	ok so i really am a dumbass. the cramkcase cover is the forward most point that i noticed oil on so i assumed it was`that piece that they ordered. I misunderstood them i guess because when i picked up the piece it is the actual clutch cover. I decided to ask her how much the crankcase cover would be just to compare and it was only $24.

04-22-09, 09:12 AM	#14
vastoholic Rising Star Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 270	Well I'm actually replacing the clutch cover now and I ordered all of the little parts to go inside of it. My question now is: What is the best way to those bearings for the release shaft into position? That is only problem I'm running into right now. Everything else is going smoothly. Also if a mod could change the title of this thread to just "Clutch Cover Replacement" or something along those lines, I think it would be better. I'm wondering if I should just take it into the Kawi place and have them hammer them into place, but I don't want to pay labor fees.

04-22-09, 02:54 PM	#15
vastoholic Rising Star Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 270	uh, oh. As I want tightening the bolts, I accidently over torqued one of them (the one that hold the clutch cable and release in place) and stripped the interior screws. I had applied the blue lock tight on them, but I'm afraid of vibration causing this one to come out still. Is there anything I can do fix this, at least with out replacing the entire clutch housing?

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