Hi Guys

the following are supposed to be very warm gloves which is what i want, however how much crash protection do they offer?(im new to biking and am used to having lumps of solid protection accross the knuckles etc).

http://www.held-biker-fashion.de/ind...5e3a2052b49d4e

or would i be better protected by these?

http://www.motshop.de/shop/catalog/p...7D73%7B1%7D190

thanks for any replies

Gav,

Can't comment specifically on the gloves you mention, but if you're concerned about warmth and protection, why not get some overgloves which you can wear over your existing gloves??? Here's an example:

http://www.bikestop.co.uk/detail.php?id=1045

--edit or even these--
http://www.getgeared.co.uk/acatalog/....html#a205006D

That way you get more layers, protection, it works out cheaper too. Only downside is that you may lose some feel on the controls so you'll need to try them first..

zedkid, have you ever used anything like those? i bought undergloves and they did very little - i want something that is effective but doesnt require being wired up to the battery

No mate, I don't ride too much in the winter.

I've got a set of Dainese leather/carbon gloves that I use for most riding, and if it's cold/wet I've got a pair of Frank Thomas Goretex gloves which are thermal and work okay.

But, if it's really cold (riding through sleet on a motorway) my hands still emerge looking like little white slugs and are painfully cold...

I've heard good reviews of Hein Gericke Pathan 3 gloves - but not tried them myself. There is a 5 finger version, but apparently the 3 finger (aka lobster claw) version is better at keeping you warm as there's less seams....

Undergloves will probably only make a diffference if you have a layer outside them that keeps the wind and rain out. Once you have established a strong barrier to the elements, under gloves can then do their job of insulating and holding in the heat.

I would look for leather gloves that are insulated & waterproof. I do not feel safe any more in my textile winter gloves (even if they are warm and waterproof) after seeing gloves fail in an accident. Kangaroo seems to be the toughest leather out there.

Originally Posted by JonF

I would look for leather gloves that are insulated & waterproof. I do not feel safe any more in my textile winter gloves (even if they are warm and waterproof) after seeing gloves fail in an accident. Kangaroo seems to be the toughest leather out there.

how important is it that they have solid knuckle protection?

The problem you may have is finding some that have solid knuckle protection and are still waterproof - unless you wear 2 pairs one for protection with solid knuckles, and then a waterproof one over the top...

"Solid" knuckle protection is not completely necessary. Not every glove made has it. Alot of gloves have double layed leather in the knuckle areas and winter gloves alo have insulation which adds padding.

Originally Posted by skinnygav

Hi Guys

the following are supposed to be very warm gloves which is what i want, however how much crash protection do they offer?(im new to biking and am used to having lumps of solid protection accross the knuckles etc).

http://www.held-biker-fashion.de/ind...5e3a2052b49d4e

or would i be better protected by these?

http://www.motshop.de/shop/catalog/p...7D73%7B1%7D190

thanks for any replies

Skinnygav, I wear these over-gloves (they are wind/waterproof) over my Held Steve gloves, this works great to about 32F/0 C. I also have the Narviks, great glove and with a wiper on the left index finger, these are great for cold days around town but if your on the Highway etc... with sustained high speeds go electric.
Fortunately I havn't crashed either glove but I dont think there is a better made glove available than Helds!
The over-gloves are available at; www.riderwarehouse.com

Gsds,
About those over-gloves. Should i buy a size larger than the gloves I normally wear so they'll fit over them. Or, are they designed large so that one should just buy the size they get in regular gloves.
thanks

backhome77, unless you have small hands I'd get the x-tra large. If I recall they only come in two sizes small and large but none the less get the biiest ones if your going to wear them over an insulated glove