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    2007 Bandit 1250 vs. FZ1

    Background: Owned and really enjoyed a 1200 Bandit I bought new in 1997 and rode for almost 9 years. Sold it and bought a 2006 1000 VStrom last year. Not very happy with my Strom -- too tall and top heavy, I never take it off paved roads (and it couldn't handle much if I did), and it just doesn't have the "pep" of my Bandit. And my riding buddy keeps disparaging it as "bulbous", which it is. I've ridden for about 25 years on 8 or 9 different bikes, averaging maybe 6K miles per year over the past decade. I ride pretty conservatively, but admit I like the feeling of rapid acceleration and speed generally. Most of my riding is commuting to/from work and around town, with some day trips and occasional long weekends on the back roads of the Northwest.

    I'm thinking about buying another Bandit (the "new and improved" 2007 model), but have heard great things about the FZ1 and took a test ride on one last Fall and liked it a lot.

    For those of you who have riding experience with or knowledge of both bikes, I would really appreciate your input on comparing the FZ1 and the new Bandit. Thanks.

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    I don't have any experience with either bike (I own an 01' Kawi ZRX1200r) but the Bandit costs less than the FZ1, but it's a good bit more in weight than the FZ and the FZ is slightly taller in seat height, I think. Tough choice. If I had to make choice 'tween the 2, I'd go with the Yammy.
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    Depends which FZ1 you are talking about. The older versions are supposedly kick-***. Everyone who has one loves the living crap out of it. The new version apparently isn't nearly as good. It's too revvy, and every single bike magazine on the planet has brought to light the horrible fueling glitch. Some say it's to the point that they can't believe Yamaha actually let the bike go into production with such a glaring (and dangerous) problem with it's Off-On sudden surge.

    It also needs to be ridden much more aggressively to get the most out of it and it's revvier engine and more sporting chassis and seating.

    Of course, I haven' ridden any of the above mention bikes, so you can only take my word for what I've read.

    Emrah

    P.S. If it were me, I think I'd stick with the bullet-proof Bandit!
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    Good point Emrah. I'm relying on what Chris Mundell, Fade and other FZ1 owners have said about their bikes on this forum.

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    Well coming from a very "unqualified " owner of the damn near brand new 2005 FZ1. I love this bike!. Has great low end, probably not as much as the Bandit. Seat height is the same as my ZR7 with a corbin seat. Wheel base is also the same. Feels lighter, handles much better, front and rear shocks are 3 way adjustable. So far I havent found anything to complain about, for sure. Oh did I mention I love my Fizzy?
    And the number 1 reason,*** I could probably keep up with Serp now*** But I aint crazy!

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    Didn't mean to disbarrage (sp?) the FZ by the way Leonard. I think they look awesome (and I'm sure ride awesome). I just like the old skool looks of the Bandit a lot.

    Emrah
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    FZ 1 isn't that bad as some magazines are saying. Fueling bug is easily solved by Power Commander. At that the bike is hadling much better than Bandit. Another issue I faced with is that Yami's suspension is not balanced good. It seems to be too stiff (mostly this is about the rear suspension) and the adjustment thereof did not helped a lot. Less comfort, but more feeling of road...

    Just in my view FZ 1 is an allrounder with some sportish addition, while Bandit is a much more calm classic bike without lots of harisma. Of course FZ 1 is more buzzy.

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    Bandit! I have a feeling that it will have tons of torque, and I like the new look.
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    1250 bandit

    Get the Bandit.
    The ergonomics are better than the 1200(lower centre of gravity),as is the suspension which ,unlike the 1200,will probably not need replacing to stiffen up the handling.
    The engine is a grunthouse and greatly benefits from fuel injection.
    I've been examining ways of beefing it and find that the aftermarket parts guys will not have such a field day as with the 1200.Even the gearing does not really need tuning as I think Suzuki have got the 6 speed right.
    So far,I find that Renthall bars improve posture and handling.The big gain has been Giannelli end can which ,literally, releases the old bandit spirit ,with the stock, very heavy,poofy,end can being no loss.
    The next step,I think,will be to lose some weight.The wheels must be the main target.Any ideas for light road wheels which don't collapse at the sight of the first pothole would be very welcome.
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    That last post was a steamin' big hunk o' spam, if I am not mistaken.

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    uuuhhhh, do you own one (Bandit)? What do you ride and what is your reference for saying that? Anyone can say anything, but I come to this excelent forum for intellegent opinions based on experience, rather than the dumping response of someone who is either brand loyal, or just read your favorite forum validating beliefs you have never experienced yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisschaffer50 View Post
    uuuhhhh, do you own one (Bandit)? What do you ride and what is your reference for saying that? Anyone can say anything, but I come to this excelent forum for intellegent opinions based on experience, rather than the dumping response of someone who is either brand loyal, or just read your favorite forum validating beliefs you have never experienced yourself.
    Who knows...neither one of you has any information about what you ride in your forum profiles.

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    I had a friend that had/loved his FZ1(first generation). I only rode it once, and it was a very nice bike. I was admiring the Bandit while getting parts in a motorcycle shop, and got talking with the salesman. I don't remember off hand, but I want to say it had a lot of torque, down low at like 4500 to 6000. The salesman printed up the specs, and I don't remember what they were. I want to say the motor was designed more for a flat torque curve then high rpm power, which to me is more useful. Anyway, if you can ride Bandit, or get a hold of some torque/hp charts it may help your decision.

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    If I had to make choice between the 2 of them I would go with the z1000

    I heard the new fz1 isnt as good as the first gen, and I know someone with the new bandit , and loves it. I think I would go with the bandit over the fz1

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    I too have been recently considering this option. A local shop has a beauty of a first gen 04 FZ1 (in black & gray- great color combo) for a decent price. Only 6k on the odo too. Meanstwhile, a couple of the other local shops have some low mileage 07 Bandits on the floor. All these machines are stock too.

    As a former ZRX1200 owner, I love the standard style bikes. I currently own an 04 ZZR1200 & am considering to trade/sell it (for a variety of reasons) to acquire one of these two but here's my issues w/each:

    The 1st gen Yamaha has a "distinctive" hawk-like appearance; not sure i'm sold on it yet but at least it's better looking than the 2nd gen FZ1 which, IMO, is fugly. The 04's gray/black color scheme really complements it. My issue w/the FZ is that I'm use to torque-based engines & from the reviews I've read, this engine's powerband is geared higher so roll-on performance won't be there like I'm use to. Outside of that, the bike appears to be a winner & this coming from a guy who's never been a fan of the FZ1 until I saw this one in this color scheme. (Sorry, ZRX bias showing.)

    There's a lot of reasons to like the B1250, especially the engine. Knowing Dale Walker can mod it up considerably helps even more so but the dang bike is so appliance-like in appearance. It's a toaster oven w/wheels. It may well be an incredibly capable, competent bike but it does NOT sing to me @ all. That's my whole issue w/the Bandit.

    So that's my thoughts, interested in hearing yours.
    Lee

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