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    Well, I thought about it for a moment

    There's one of these available close to me and I thought, "What the heck? Get something special." Rather than dropping as much or more on a H-D or such. So in reading about and preparing myself, I stumbled across a spec that I don't ever ignore again since I bought my wife a new Miata... the permissible load capacity. For the Miata, it's 340 pounds! My wife and I can't ride together (mainly my fault). Good thing it's her "motorcycle" and I don't need to ride in it. The H2 load limit is 227 pounds. I would have to lose 25 pounds just to ride the thing. Still searching.....
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    LOL, never thought of that. Geez there's actually an "H2" forum here?

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    It's a nice break from...

    • "Is a 10R a good beginner bike?"
    • "Found another speck of dirt on my Meanie today!"
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    Hmm, I personally don't pay very much attention to stated "vehicle load capacity" myself. I mean has anyone ever looked at the stated load capacity of a Harley dresser ? hell just the riders alone overtax that. Just saying. I rode a Honda S90 as my first motorcycle and I think they expected a trained monkey to ride that. Just saying. If you want it buy it and enjoy.
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    Harley road glide ultra load capacity 438 lbs. My wife and my combined is 340, but should be 310 (my fault).

    Course lpscruggs could have use a goldwing as an example since they've a rear seat designed for a buffet goddess.

    Daddyflip, maybe the H2 sitting in the kitchen will be the motivation you need. Of course, like me, too much restaurant food alone with the flirty waitress looking for a good tip, but with just enough extra weight that you don't take your eyes off your smart phone.
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    I know all about restaurant food and flirty waitresses; both can be extremely dangerous. I have a hard enough time with the food, but one time I ran into a flirty waitress who became my second wife. She's sitting beside me, 14 years later, as I type this. Her hook line? "I told those other girls, 'He's my man, he just doesn't know it yet."
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    The "load capacity" relates to the cargo/trunk weight added. The suspension and tires of the car would have to be rated for more than 340lbs or they would have warnings, and legal issues galore with insurances/accidents.
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    Incorrect sir. The load capacity is weight of passengers and whatever they want to carry at any location in the vehicle.

    It is 340 lbs for the Mazda Miata and 850 lbs for the Ford Taurus, for example. For the Kawasaki H2, it is 227 pounds.
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    I was curious so I asked both a service manager at our dealership, and went on-line to Mazdausa.com. Both essentially said the car will safely handle more than the placards 300-400lbs stated capacity but the performance and/efficiency (mileage) of the engine will be "reduced". Your car, your call.
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    Daddyflip, based on Carryall's comments and your search for a new bike, perhaps the H2 is really for you even as you read my type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carryall View Post
    I was curious so I asked both a service manager at our dealership, and went on-line to Mazdausa.com. Both essentially said the car will safely handle more than the placards 300-400lbs stated capacity but the performance and/efficiency (mileage) of the engine will be "reduced". Your car, your call.
    That's because they want to sell you a car.

    I see overloaded truck/trailer combos all the time. Sure, they are safe if they drive very carefully and don't have to avoid a wreck. But, they are an accident waiting to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheeladdict View Post
    That's because they want to sell you a car.

    I see overloaded truck/trailer combos all the time. Sure, they are safe if they drive very carefully and don't have to avoid a wreck. But, they are an accident waiting to happen.
    Actually...that's not true. For the actual carrying capacity you need to refer to gross vehicle weight and curb weight. The difference between these 2 numbers is the safe weight carrying capacity of the vehicle. It's not the same as the recommended weight limit...which is the number Flip is referring to. The weight limit for the Miata convertible is 412 lbs. Check the numbers for yourself...2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Features & Specs | Edmunds

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    You are technically correct, HbK, but that's not what the manufacturer intends when they spec the vehicle for use. What you are saying is akin to someone looking on the sidewall of their tire to determine the correct air pressure to use, which we know is not correct. The correct air pressure is on a sticker in the driver side door jamb; the permissible load limit is also printed on this sticker with the statement, "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed xxxkg or xxxlbs." Then below that is the air pressure.

    I checked out the specs on my mom's new HR-V. It has load limit of 850 pounds on the sticker. The GVWR is 4001 and the curb weight is 2902, for a difference of 1099 pounds. So you tell me; is this just a 249 pounds margin of safety? With respect to the Miata, there's not much difference in 350 and 412 pounds... a 62 pound margin of safety? (Point of information: Edmunds uses the same weight specs for all six variants of Miata, which is not correct.)

    So what's the GVWR of the H2?
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    Yes. The difference is ideal weight limit vs true safety weight limit...based on the engineering capabilities of the vehicle. The tires, brakes, power train and suspension are all within their designed tolerances.

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    If its ok to use claimed weights, then my concours 14 weighs 615lbs like Kawasaki said it did, back in 2008.

    The same manual says I can carry 441 lbs, if I inflate the tires to 42psi. My slipon saved 10lbs, so does that give me 451lbs of capacity, or 401 once the real weight of the bike is figured in since it would only weigh 615 if I left the swingarm off.
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