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    Improving my 2013 Ninja 650

    I have recently purchased a 2013 Ninja 650 and i am looking to get a little more out of it. Nothing crazy. Am planning on purchase of a Yoshi full exhaust in the near future. Then possible airbox mod as well. Would these two mods require a PCV? I know to get the most out of these mods i will need it, but is it required to run? If so how much will the addition of an Autotune benefit me if any? I also plan to get a new sprocket and a speedohealer. I know the sprocket will lower my top end but i really shouldn't be doing 130 anyway. Lol. So a little more bottom end will be nice to have. Any suggestions of sprocket size? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevyn04 View Post
    I have recently purchased a 2013 Ninja 650 and i am looking to get a little more out of it.
    There are plenty of guys here who will help you spend a lot of money on "upgrades".
    Then there are few of us that think it will be mostly a waste of money and if not done exactly right it could end up doing more harm than good.
    Not only should you not be doing 130, you shouldn't be screaming off the line either; they give tickets for that too.......and road rash badges too if you should hit a slick spot.

    So....I think the best advice is: If the bike you have doesn't have enough zip for you, trade it in on a different one that does.

    Or just enjoy riding what you have; especially if you are new rider.

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    If you are looking for more performance, you probably want to get a new bike. You are not going to get much more doing basic upgrades. What you can do however is make the engine run smoother, make the suspension more compliant and possibly improve the ergonomics.

    You will need some sort of fuel management with a full exhaust. Do you need one? No, but you won't be helping it. The PCV should smooth it all out. There is a thread nearby that explains the PCV and everything else that comes with it.
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    What Easy Rider said is pretty much how I feel. I can't see spending 1/6 what I spent on the entire bike for an exhaust, PC V, and auto-tune...for what, slightly better acceleration? top-end (that I never see anyway)? The thing is brand-new, enjoy it for a while.
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    Im not a new rider, had an '06 CBR600RR with a two brothers exhaust and PCIII a few years ago. Wish i still had it. Just recently picked up the Ninja, finally getting back on two wheels. Like i said, not looking to go crazy. I know i wont be breaking any speed records on this bike. But i do like it alot. And id like to keep it, just do a few mods to personalize it. I plan to pick up a used 636 just for fun.

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    I disagree. Having a 2013 ninja 650 is a nice bike I would as well buy a new exhaust and cool looking mods or wwhateverit is that you want on it. I as well hav the same bike and I want it to look the way I want it and the way I want it to sound. I would purchase a exhaust 1\6 of what the bike is worth because I take pride in that bike and the bikes value increases as you put these mods on.
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    Thats the way i see it too jered. I wanna improve the sound with an exhaust. May not even do the airbox mod, not sure yet. As far as performance goes, if i only get a 5hp bump i'll be happy. Two brothers says their exhaust gives a 7hp bump and 4lbs/ft of torque. Although i want a yoshi on my bike. I prefer the look of them over TBR. With the sprocket, i don't want a serious change because i drive 2 hours a day to and from work and don't want a huge drop in gas mileage. I know the general consensus is get a faster bike, but seeing that i am keeping this one, is there any advice on sprockets. Should i just change the teeth on the rear sprocket or front too? Also, if i get the PCV, is it worth the autotune too? I know it adjusts your tune as you ride, but is that something thats only truly beneficial to a race/track bike, or would i benefit as well?

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    The autotune tunes it for your bike for the conditions you encounter. A standard map, if available, should be fine most of the time. Like everything else, is that extra bit worth the cost? Your decision.

    If no one answers, search the forum for sprocket and you should find a few posts about people changing them.

    I bought a bike that fit me the best and where I had money to spare to customize how I wanted to. I am not sure why some people are against upgrades. Also, if you are just asking for small bumps in horsepower then that makes more sense. I was just making sure you were not expecting huge gains. I am not sure how much it really takes to be noticable anyway and the HP/Torque listings are just the max, you never see all of that throughout the rpm range and that is not always typical for every bike either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nevyn04 View Post
    Two brothers says their exhaust gives a 7hp bump and 4lbs/ft of torque.

    is there any advice on sprockets.
    Sure they do. How else would they sell their product.......except with illegal noise.
    And make no mistake, it IS illegal to modify your exhaust so it makes more noise.
    May not be enforced much but illegal none the less......and obnoxious too.

    So.....do what you MUST but please do only ONE thing at a time, like the pipes, and then ride it a bit.
    If that is all you change, you might not need anything else at all.
    It is usually the air box that trips you over to an aftermarket fuel controller.

    And if you spend two hours a day on the road, I think you would be foolish to change the
    final drive to make more rev's. Wastes gas AND harder on the engine too.
    You might actually want to try one HIGHER on the front and see if that doesn't actually feel better.

    I don't know what "benefit" you actually think you will get with any of this, except possibly more "look at me" noise.
    You really don't HAVE to change anything, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPyron View Post
    I am not sure why some poeple are against upgrades.
    Because they often are NOT improvements.
    Many times it is just a placebo effect and not any real gain.
    And it wastes money.
    And it wastes time.
    And sometimes it is never right again and it all has to come off or the bike gets sold.

    But it is YOUR time and YOUR money and YOUR bike.
    I just chime in because I think new owners get caught up in the hype all too often.......and I think it is a shame to start screwing with a brand new bike.
    Just my opinion.

    P.S. If it IS a brand new bike, you need to consider your warranty.......and what happens if you mess with it and then it requires service; might be an expensive mistake.

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    I want a new exhaust both for sound and looks. The stock exhaust is ugly IMO. If a new one boosts performance as well then great. If not, well at least it looks and sounds better, and thats worth it to me. I'd thought about going higher on the front but how much will that affect my low end? I already make 50 MPG average. Could i increase that number and lower cruise speed revs without a detrimental affect on my low end? If so I may go that route.

    Oh, This is my bike BTW


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    That is a stock photo from when I first got it. I have since lowered the handlebars as low as they would go and am planning on getting sport bars. And I have blacked out the windscreen.

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    I didn't say don't get an exhaust...I was just telling you how I feel. If you don't want an answer then don't ask questions *shrug. To me it's not worth it...but if your buying another bike then you have deeper pockets than me and can spend your loot how you like. That's all
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    Didn't mean to offend Fish guy. Just saying I'm getting an exhaust regardless. The question wasn't should i get an exhaust. It was would it require a Fuel controller, such as a PCV. Thanks for your input though.

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    You didn't offend me at all. By all means spend your money how you want, you're the one who worked for it. My last comment was toward xpyron saying "I'm not sure why people are against upgrades". Lots of kids buy this bike and think that adding a can will make it sound like an I-4...which it never will. Noone knew this wasn't your 1st bike in your 1st post so I just figured you wanted that 'sportbike' sound
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