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    Upgrading front brakes..

    Hey guys, I'm thinking about upgrading the front brakes. By that, I mean just changing pads and lines, not calipers. Wanted to know if any of you have tried steel braided lines. BRP has some and I also wanted to know if their $85 Vesrah brake pads are worth the $85. They also have some EBC's for $70. What differences would I expect to see if I upgraded to steel braided lines? Input would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greykawi View Post
    Hey guys, I'm thinking about upgrading the front brakes. By that, I mean just changing pads and lines, not calipers. Wanted to know if any of you have tried steel braided lines. BRP has some and I also wanted to know if their $85 Vesrah brake pads are worth the $85. They also have some EBC's for $70. What differences would I expect to see if I upgraded to steel braided lines? Input would be much appreciated. Thanks.
    I have Goodridge front and rear steel braided brake lines. I bought my rear from Gary at BRP. You can expect a quicker stopping bike. There was a slight delay with the stock lines especially when it was warm.
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    EBC-HH pads are good for all around riding.
    Vesrah RJL pads are for racing/track day use, or performance style riding.
    Vesrah's have better initial bite.
    EBC is also makes an new pad Extreme Pro, which we will be using next season.
    For the 650, these retail for $75 a side.
    I'll have them on my site soon.
    http://www.ebcbrakes.com/motorcycle_...reme-pro.shtml

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    Stock Kawasaki pads and steel braided lines. Motul 800 brake fluid. After bleeding brakes, hold lever in overnight with zip tie. Your brakes will be rock solid hard the next day.

    I stay away from aftermarket pads. I have yet to find an aftermarket pad that will outperform the stock ones.

    I am by no means putting down aftermarket. I just like the overall feel and performance of stock pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballisticexchri View Post
    Stock Kawasaki pads and steel braided lines. Motul 800 brake fluid. After bleeding brakes, hold lever in overnight with zip tie. Your brakes will be rock solid hard the next day.

    I stay away from aftermarket pads. I have yet to find an aftermarket pad that will outperform the stock ones.

    I am by no means putting down aftermarket. I just like the overall feel and performance of stock pads.
    That's a good start. Have you ever tried back to back tests? I have, and the OEM pad to hold a candle to Vesrah's.
    I have not had a chance to try the ECB Pro's, but my riders have, and like them
    over the Vesrah's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    I have not had a chance to try the ECB Pro's, but my riders have, and like them
    over the Vesrah's.
    Sorry to hijack the thread.
    Gary you say your riders like the EBC-Pro's over the Vesrah RJL's and this is on the stock calipers?

    At my last race (back in September) I put on a set of SRJL's on my R1 calipers (fitted to my 05zx6r forks) It is extreme braking. So much so that I have to be careful or I'll end up on my head. I'd call it overkill, and they weren't cheap.
    They'll probably last me all next year, but I'm always interested in input.
    I had a set of EBC's for part of the 08 season, and they warped after 2 race weekends, not OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    That's a good start. Have you ever tried back to back tests? I have, and the OEM pad to hold a candle to Vesrah's.
    I have not had a chance to try the ECB Pro's, but my riders have, and like them
    over the Vesrah's.
    To be honest, no I have not run back to back tests. I have used EBC, DP, Moose Ceramic Backed, and SBS in the past.

    What I have found with aftermarket brakes is either grabby brakes with accelerated rotor/pad wear, weak brakes with long wear, or squeaky squealing brakes.

    I have never had an issue with stock pads. They always feel the same and wear the same each and every time.....

    I don't ride track so I cannot comment on how the stock ones would hold up in the "heat of usage".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballisticexchri View Post
    Stock Kawasaki pads and steel braided lines. Motul 800 brake fluid. After bleeding brakes, hold lever in overnight with zip tie. Your brakes will be rock solid hard the next day.

    I stay away from aftermarket pads. I have yet to find an aftermarket pad that will outperform the stock ones.

    I am by no means putting down aftermarket. I just like the overall feel and performance of stock pads.
    Thanks. A friend of mine also said that, to just use Motul brake fluid and steel braided lines. Think I will go with that, since the aftermarket pads go for 70-80 dollars a side, expensive for me. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acme Racer View Post
    Sorry to hijack the thread.
    Gary you say your riders like the EBC-Pro's over the Vesrah RJL's and this is on the stock calipers?

    At my last race (back in September) I put on a set of SRJL's on my R1 calipers (fitted to my 05zx6r forks) It is extreme braking. So much so that I have to be careful or I'll end up on my head. I'd call it overkill, and they weren't cheap.
    They'll probably last me all next year, but I'm always interested in input.
    I had a set of EBC's for part of the 08 season, and they warped after 2 race weekends, not OK.
    That was the problem I had with EBC's in the past.
    The current HH's are supposed to be better.Problem was with the backing plate.
    We ran the SRJL's on our SV, with a GSXR front end. Yup, overkill.

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    Chris, we've been running the same rotors for 3 years, using Vesrah RJL's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Chris, we've been running the same rotors for 3 years, using Vesrah RJL's.
    Wow! That's very cool! Especially since your point of view is from an "on the track" standpoint where the use is way more extreme than street use.

    Very good life of rotors indeed.

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