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    2006 Ninja 650r starts and stops

    Hi, I recently purchased a used 2006 Ninja 650r from craigslist and after I bought it home it didn't start, I thought it was because I added alot of fuel to it and a hose on the side was leaking gasoline (from the hose under the tank) so i drained the fuel, I replaced the spark plugs and did a oil change, after the oil change the oil looked milky after starting it nbut the level of coolant stays the same but I cant get the bike to stay started for more than 15seconds without it cutting off on me
    When i bought the bike the guy told me the bike has been sitting for long time and the mother decided to sell the bike.

    Also I can rev the bike but it doesnt stay on, I can rev it for about 10seconds to try to keep the bike running but it dies while revving as well

    Heres a video of what it does

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    Sounds almost like it is running on one cylinder. Does it have an aftermarket exhaust? At any rate, the dying is likely due to running out of fuel, which might be the fuel pump. The early Ninja 650s had fuel pump problems. There are ways to check the fuel pump and you might need to go to a dealer to get this test done.
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    There is a pathetic small fuel filter attached to the fuel pump inside the gas tank. If fuel was sitting in the tank for a long time it might have gone bad and clogged the filter. This could let a small amount of fuel soak through, but not enough to keep it running.
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    That def sounds like its just running out of fuel. Maybe pull the fuel pump and try cleaning it out. There is a screen attached to the fuel pump that could be all sorts of clogged. I'm also with McRider on the fact it sounds like its only running on one cylinder. Could be just enough fuel to get it going for a short few seconds then once it exhausts what the pump puts out it just dies. I'm also pretty sure that you can accidentally hook the coil plugs up backwards and that can create some issues. Ask me how I know.... lol. Luckily these bikes are cake to work on. Just be careful pulling the fuel line as the little red clip is brittle and so is the fitting on the fuel pump. Once you have the clip snapped out just slightly spin the line on the fitting back and forth while slightly pulling the line away from the fitting.
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    I think you're very correct guys I took the Fuel Pump Out and Its really dirty I had gas in the tank but it would always tell me i need more on the bike and it was very confusing
    Heres a video of the fuel Pump


    Do you have any tips for the best way to Clean my Tank along with the Fuel Pump and Which solutions to use for each, I thank you guys very much for your help
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    fuel pump costs over $200. Cleaning might work. It's labor involved. Def clean out the tank.I have replaced the pump 2 times on mine at 18k and 38 k miles. Got 62k now on it. Test the pressure using an old oil pressure gage. You need a 5/16" hose fitting on the gage rated for FI (47 psi).
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    you can try to clean it out, but that's really gunked up. Maybe let the strainer sit in some carb cleaner and if you can get a 12v source on the pump and run cleaner through it. If you do that don't let the pump run while dry or it will burn it out really quick. you could probably spray some carb cleaner into that tank to get that stuff out. I know on older bikes people put sand and water into the tank and just shake it back and forth to get the crap out. Just be sure to rinse it out really well and either let it air dry really well or blow air through it to dry it out. Brand new fuel pump through Partzilla.com is $226. It's gonna be up to you if you want to just replace for peace of mind or try cleaning it to save some $$.
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    Ive cleaned out the Tank and the Fuel Pump along with the filter using Carb Cleaner and because The bike been sitting I suspect the Carbs to be someone clogged a bit Do you think I can use SeaFoam to clean the carbs and have it run through my engine for extra cleaning and if so how would i do it, I was just going to put everything back together and since theres no gas in the tank Id empty the SeaFoam into the tank and run the bike till it burns the SeaFoam then add Gas to it

    Heres how the Pump looks now
    IMG_20170311_121023.jpgIMG_20170311_121033.jpg

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    your bike is fuel injected so there aren't any carbs to clean. It def wouldn't hurt to run some seafoam through to clean the injectors and lines.
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    If I were to do it I would do a half a tank of gas and about a 1/4 to 1/2 a bottle of marvel mystery oil in the tank. Hopefully it will stay running and idling. If it does take it for a spin but stay close enough to home that pushing it isn't going to be a chore if it dies. I would just keep adding some type of cleaner for the next couple of fill ups and then it should be good after that.

    Also if you can get access to an ultrasonic cleaner such as this one http://www.harborfreight.com/25-lite...ner-63256.html these things do wonders for injectors and cleaning really gunked up parts. Have you been able to hook a 12v source to the fuel pump to make sure it's working correctly? I would def try to run some cleaner through the pump to get it all cleaned out.
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    I'd probably try some fresh gas first and maybe mix in a higher concentrate of seafoam than normal. You could always start with a small amount, maybe a 1/4 gallon or something that way you could either add an extreme amount of seafoam if there were problems and you thought that might be the fix or basically you're good to go at that point and don't waste a $10 bottle of seafoam.
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    I think I have a fuel pump I can let go of for a reasonable price too if all else fails.

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    Hey guys Im sorry for the Delay we just had a 2 snow storms and its been really cold out but today is nice outside i decided to finish what I started to get ready for riding season.
    Now i replaced the battery with brand new one, the gas and gas tank cleaned out the fuel pump is cleaned and the bike starts immediately but 1 problem, It revs and goes but the idle is very low for some reason I took a video on how it is, it doesnt cut off but it stays very low heres the video


    UPDATE : I adjusted the idle and it runs normal, I was literally turning the idle low without knowing it was the actual idle adjuster sorry bout that, it runs normal now Just gotta ride it for a while to see if the oil tank unfogs

    And for some reason (this may not be a problem) but when I look at the oil tank its cloudy, i have no leaks or nothing but idk if its due to the weather being really cold or not but I did a oil change few days ago replaced oil filter n everything but the oil was alittle smoother than usual not clear and the new oil looks like this now
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    Last edited by abinadabscott; 03-20-17 at 09:22 AM.
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    Oil should be fine, that sight glass sometimes gets a little hazy/cloudy from condensation. If you take the bike out for a good ride it should return to normal.
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    Congrats on getting it fixed and running well. Fuel and all that clogging definitely was causing issues. Too bad they really need the idle up, sounds really cool with that low/lumpy idle!

    Yep avoid running the bike now. Starting it and let it warm up a little bit like in your vids isn't good and will directly cause the condesation you're seeing. You're working on it so it's somewhat understandable but now that you've got it sorted leave it off until your ready to ride. When you're ready to start riding, take her out for a good 1-2 hour ride, let it get nice and warmed up, and it'll boil all that condesnation out. For storage, I generally follow and recommend Kawasakis storage guidelines in the owner manual especially considering it looks like your bike is stored outdoors. Outdoors you should be particularly mindful of potential rodent problems, just this year a guy on another forum had a mouse make their home in his battery box.

    For battery maintenance either remove it from the bike during winter storage or occasionally hook a maintaner up. You don't necessarily have to keep a maintainer on their 24/7 but probably a good idea to hook one up every couple weeks. Just don't forget otherwise you'll probably end up with a dead battery come spring and seem to remember "just hooked up the damn thing 2 weeks ago" although it's actually been 3 months.
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