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    Valve adjustment cost

    How much are you paying for the 15000 mile valve adjustment? I am getting close to 15000 and wondered if anyone had tired to do it themselves or just took it to the shop. If you went with the shop, how much did it cost you?
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    I'm paying a couple hours of my life, but they are very enjoyable hours. That is one of the reasons I chose the 650R, Only two cylinders to check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheeladdict View Post
    I'm paying a couple hours of my life, but they are very enjoyable hours. That is one of the reasons I chose the 650R, Only two cylinders to check.
    but 8 valves...

    so, where'd the 15k interval come from? my 09 650's MOM sez 26,250. whaddup??

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    my owners manual table gives 15000. I realize the maintenance manual reads 26000, I just thought 15000 should be about right for the first valve check. The in-line fours we had in the eighties were even lower than 15000. When is everyone else getting the valves checked?
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    i just checked on this today at the place i bought my bike from, the cost is almost $500. thats at dealership labor rates. 4 hours labor (if they need to be adj) 2 hours if they dont. plus any parts!! they say its because the 650 has cam over bucket valves and to check them and adj them you have to pull the cams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver 650r View Post
    my owners manual table gives 15000. I realize the maintenance manual reads 26000, I just thought 15000 should be about right for the first valve check. The in-line fours we had in the eighties were even lower than 15000. When is everyone else getting the valves checked?
    owners manual = factory service manual that costs roughly $75?

    maintenance manual = the little booklet that comes with the bike when purchased new?

    i have always used MOM (Motorcycle Owner's Manual) when speaking of the little book that comes with the bike. my MOM sez the valve inspection interval is every 26,250 miles. did i misread it, or fail to notice other information elsewhere, or is the information in MOM false?

    does anyone have the factory service manual for the 09 650? if you have it, would you look up this information for us, please? thanx!!

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    The small book that came with my bike reads "owners manual" on the front, but the table on page 72 gives (15) - (mile x 1000) for valve clearance - inspect. I'm sure anywhere in there is probably good. Just curious what everyone else was doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedracer3605 View Post
    i just checked on this today at the place i bought my bike from, the cost is almost $500. thats at dealership labor rates. 4 hours labor (if they need to be adj) 2 hours if they dont. plus any parts!! they say its because the 650 has cam over bucket valves and to check them and adj them you have to pull the cams!
    To check the valves all you should have to do is pull the tank off, remove the valve cover, and use feeler gauges to check the clearance once you have the cams in the proper position. The cams should only need to be pulled if the shims have to be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedracer3605 View Post
    i just checked on this today at the place i bought my bike from, the cost is almost $500. thats at dealership labor rates. 4 hours labor (if they need to be adj) 2 hours if they dont. plus any parts!! they say its because the 650 has cam over bucket valves and to check them and adj them you have to pull the cams!
    I believe we have shim under bucket valves and yes the cams have to be pulled if you need to change out a shim. Unless you really beat on your bike you will probably not find anything out of tolerance, but if you don't check and something is out of tolerance you are on your way to major $ if you don't take care of it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by steveinsandiego View Post
    but 8 valves...
    8 valves is better than 16. and a parallel twin is less work than a v-twin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apmonr01 View Post
    To check the valves all you should have to do is pull the tank off, remove the valve cover, and use feeler gauges to check the clearance once you have the cams in the proper position. The cams should only need to be pulled if the shims have to be replaced.
    Also have to pull one or both side fairings to get the cam cover off and access the sight holes in the right side cover.
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    Has anyone on the forum done a valve adjustment on the 650? It looks like a ton of work due to having to pull the cams. I've done it on the old school ninja 250 and it wasn't too bad, but it didn't have the shim under bucket valves like the 650 has, so it didn't involve pulling the cams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinsandiego View Post
    owners manual = factory service manual that costs roughly $75?

    maintenance manual = the little booklet that comes with the bike when purchased new?

    i have always used MOM (Motorcycle Owner's Manual) when speaking of the little book that comes with the bike. my MOM sez the valve inspection interval is every 26,250 miles. did i misread it, or fail to notice other information elsewhere, or is the information in MOM false?

    does anyone have the factory service manual for the 09 650? if you have it, would you look up this information for us, please? thanx!!
    You misread. The 26250 is prob KM not miles, cause it comes to a little over 15k miles when you convert it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apmonr01 View Post
    Has anyone on the forum done a valve adjustment on the 650? It looks like a ton of work due to having to pull the cams. I've done it on the old school ninja 250 and it wasn't too bad, but it didn't have the shim under bucket valves like the 650 has, so it didn't involve pulling the cams.
    I havn't reached the mileage yet but I did help my friend do his ZZR. It is not bad and in fact I thought it was better than the Ninja 250. It took me several tries to the the nut tight without changing the clearance on the 250.

    On the shim under bucket you check and if out of tolerance you calculate the require shim, lift the cam remove the bucket, put in the new shim and replace. The only tricky part is dealing with the cam chain.

    Like anything else, you have to stay very organized and be meticulous.
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    [QUOTE=twowheeladdict;553150]I believe we have shim under bucket valves and yes the cams have to be pulled if you need to change out a shim. Unless you really beat on your bike you will probably not find anything out of tolerance, but if you don't check and something is out of tolerance you are on your way to major $ if you don't take care of it now.

    oh ok I was just going by what the guy at the dealership told me I haven't looked at my maintance manual to check if he was right or not. also if you were going to check them yourself how would you open and close them? again haven't check the manual just curious. would you bump the starter like on a car or is there another way to open a d close them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedracer3605 View Post
    ...also if you were going to check them yourself how would you open and close them? again haven't check the manual just curious. would you bump the starter like on a car or is there another way to open a d close them?
    With the spark plugs removed to stop compression from locking up the wheel, you should be able to put it in gear and walk the bike forward to rotate the motor. If you have spools and a rear stand, it's even easier. When I'm cleaning/lubing my chain, I just grab the rear wheel from behind and yank up on it to advance the chain. It's pretty light in the rear. I think you can even re-use the rubber valve cover seal if it's not too old. Dang...I think I just convinced myself to check mine, lol. I only have 3000 miles on mine, but I'm paranoid about new motors settling after break-in. Plus, mines making a weird intermittent pinging noise at idle

    What's the spec on them by the way? Is there a max and minimum clearance or something?
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