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    Whats up guys, so one of my pipes heatshields broke off the other day. well the little piece of metal that is welded on the inside of the heatshield, that holds the metal clamp that goes around the pipe is what brok off. what do you guys recommend to get that little mount back on. I dont have a welder and I dont have a welding company near me to ask to tack it on. im thinking some kind of high heat epoxy. Ive used jbweld in the past with great success. but its only rated up to 300 dgrs, their high heat one only is good for up to 450 and their extreme heat (which would work, rated up to 2400 dgrs) ive seen a few videos of it failing from either not hardening or cracking. what do you guys recommend. thanks
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    JB weld is good stuff, i'm just worried about the vibrations. It may hold for a bit, but i fear the vibrating will cause it to crack and break off again. If i were you i would find someone within road trip distance that will weld it for you. JB weld in temporarily or even a big hose clamp to get you there. Have it done right. And you have a good excuse to go on a road trip
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    yea your definitely right about doing thing the "right" way. I just didnt know if there was some new product out that I wasnt aware of that might be made for this exact type of application. ill just have to find a spot to tack weld it back on for me .
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    High-heat JB weld worked for a few weeks - but vibration caused it to break loose. I ended up tach welding the tabs back on. However, this can (and most likely will) damage/burn/blue the chrome finish. I would suggest getting the heatshield as cold as possible (ice bath, or ice towel on the chome side) prior to tacking them back on. That's what I ended up doing on my V&H Big Shots

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    You might want to give Quiksteel a shot. It's much more durable and heat resistant than JBWeld. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Blue-Magi...-2-oz/17134766

    My former boss and good friend used it to seal a hole in his case til the end of the cross country race season. He made the repair mid-race! It held together fine til he got time to replace the cases after the season. Afterwards, he carried it during every race in his tool pack...and swore by it!
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    Just sharing my experience here

    I keep breaking these things too on my V&H big shots. Also the clamps themselves break regularly. And to top those problems off, my lower pipe is broken at the rear side of the powerport. I'm on my second set of V&H big shots with all the same problems. Just make sure you don't lose a heat shield on the highway and take out a buddy behind you. Also you might want to take a close look at the lower pipe where it is welded to the powerport. It can be completely broken but it won't fall off because one end is bolted to the head and the other to the rear exhaust hanger.

    I was on a road trip far from home with my buddies. I make them clean their bikes when we are at a motel, so we look *****in when we go to the local bar, but also it is a good way to find loose stuff on your bike. That is precisely what happened to one buddy when he was cleaning his bike...his heat shield came off in his hands...V&H of course. He finished our trip, but with the heat shield strapped to his rear rack. We got rid of his heat shields when we got home and put that pipe wrap stuff on, which worked really well and it looked wicked.

    I am going to try the Cobra Speedster's with powerport next. I know they sit a little closer to the ground on the Meanie, so I am just going to have to except that I will wear a flat spot on the lower pipe. I had Cobra on a previous bike and was impressed with fit, finish and sound.

    Good luck with whatever you do, and if you try to use that Blue Magic QuikSteel epoxy I would sure be interested in your results.

    Cheers all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatwagon View Post
    High-heat JB weld worked for a few weeks - but vibration caused it to break loose. I ended up tach welding the tabs back on. However, this can (and most likely will) damage/burn/blue the chrome finish. I would suggest getting the heatshield as cold as possible (ice bath, or ice towel on the chome side) prior to tacking them back on. That's what I ended up doing on my V&H Big Shots
    that is something I was worried about also. my Brother just picked up a small cheap welder but we both have never tried it before. thats an option, maybe stick a ice pack or something under the spot we would tack it with. I just didnt want to experiment our first time using a welder with something on my bike

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    You might want to give Quiksteel a shot. It's much more durable and heat resistant than JBWeld. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Blue-Magi...-2-oz/17134766

    My former boss and good friend used it to seal a hole in his case til the end of the cross country race season. He made the repair mid-race! It held together fine til he got time to replace the cases after the season. Afterwards, he carried it during every race in his tool pack...and swore by it!

    Ok cool, ive never heard of that stuff. Ill look into it thanks. thats exactly the reason I posted this. maybe get a suggestion like this about a product ive never heard of. thank you

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    Just sharing my experience here

    I keep breaking these things too on my V&H big shots. Also the clamps themselves break regularly. And to top those problems off, my lower pipe is broken at the rear side of the powerport. I'm on my second set of V&H big shots with all the same problems. Just make sure you don't lose a heat shield on the highway and take out a buddy behind you. Also you might want to take a close look at the lower pipe where it is welded to the powerport. It can be completely broken but it won't fall off because one end is bolted to the head and the other to the rear exhaust hanger.

    I was on a road trip far from home with my buddies. I make them clean their bikes when we are at a motel, so we look *****in when we go to the local bar, but also it is a good way to find loose stuff on your bike. That is precisely what happened to one buddy when he was cleaning his bike...his heat shield came off in his hands...V&H of course. He finished our trip, but with the heat shield strapped to his rear rack. We got rid of his heat shields when we got home and put that pipe wrap stuff on, which worked really well and it looked wicked.

    I am going to try the Cobra Speedster's with powerport next. I know they sit a little closer to the ground on the Meanie, so I am just going to have to except that I will wear a flat spot on the lower pipe. I had Cobra on a previous bike and was impressed with fit, finish and sound.

    Good luck with whatever you do, and if you try to use that Blue Magic QuikSteel epoxy I would sure be interested in your results.

    Cheers all!
    for sure, always got to check for loose parts. I heard rattling on my way home from work, which is how I realized one of the 2 brackets broke off. when I got home I took the heatshield right off. been riding without it for the past week. no big deal. I actually thought about wrapping another set of pipes I had. Problem is from all my research I couldnt find a set of wraps that didnt either fade, discolor, or turn brittle within a yr. and just look bad after that. but that is an option also. ill have to see how wraps would look on these specific pipes. these are short straight pipes. Old picture but putting it up so you get an idea.
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    Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
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    So quick update, I took the pipe over to my local bike shop, figured they'd have experience welding. The head mechanic there is pretty knowledgeable. I brought the pipe with me , he said he could tack weld it but no matter what he does it will discolor and ruin the chrome on the front of the pipe on the weld spots. and since there are 4 spots (2 brackets , 1 tack for each side of each bracket) I would have these 4 burn marks on the chrome. He actually recommended I try jb weld first. and if it doesnt hold I can always weld it. so ill probably jb weld it over the weekend and give it a few days to cure. ill make sure to sand it down, get all the rust and grit off of it first and sand with a coarse paper to give the jb something to bite onto. if all else fails I can always just take off the heatshields and wrap the pipes lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyinfamous2k2 View Post
    So quick update, I took the pipe over to my local bike shop, figured they'd have experience welding. The head mechanic there is pretty knowledgeable. I brought the pipe with me , he said he could tack weld it but no matter what he does it will discolor and ruin the chrome on the front of the pipe on the weld spots. and since there are 4 spots (2 brackets , 1 tack for each side of each bracket) I would have these 4 burn marks on the chrome. He actually recommended I try jb weld first. and if it doesnt hold I can always weld it. so ill probably jb weld it over the weekend and give it a few days to cure. ill make sure to sand it down, get all the rust and grit off of it first and sand with a coarse paper to give the jb something to bite onto. if all else fails I can always just take off the heatshields and wrap the pipes lol
    If the JB weld doesn't work or as an option, buy two small stainless steel button head bolts and nuts, drill the shield and use those to hold the brackets in place. As far as looks go, the SS button heads will hardly be noticed on a chrome shield.
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    If you prefer, JB Weld has a knock off version of Kwik Steel. https://www.walmart.com/ip/J-B-Weld-...&wl13=&veh=sem The reason I would recommend it for this purpose is because it is putty infused with actual steel to help harden and form more strongly and permanently for mechanical purposes than normal bonding agents like standard JB Weld. Good luck!

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    Thanks tex. I'll look those up. And your right that will probably look like we're supposed to be there vs burn makes from welds.
    Hey hilbilly. Have you ever used the puddy version? I have a hard time understanding how it works since its not a 2 part type epoxy like the regular version.
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    Yes I've used both types many times. This stuff is 2 parts. You cut off the amount to use and mix the inner and outer materials together to make it harden. PS...it stinks pretty bad til it dries. So if you do end up using it, you probably want to do it in a well ventilated area!

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    Oh so don't chew it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyinfamous2k2 View Post
    Oh so don't chew it?
    Not unless you have a few cavities that need filling and you have a particularly strong aversion to dentists! LOL
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