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    12k miles? Too many?

    I found an 08 ninja 650r with 12k miles. Is that too many for a sport bike? What Would you look for with a bike wih that many miles, or should I stay away from it?

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    Not too many at all I wouldn't be concerned about that many as long as it has been taken care of well.

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    When I sold mine it had 14,000 miles on it. There are several guys who have posted having more than 30,000 miles and at least two guys who have exceeded 70,000 miles on Ninja 650s. I would want to see how it was maintained. With that many miles and being 4 years old the brake fluids should have been changed so look at the reservoirs and see if the fluid is clear. If it is yellowing or looks like rootbeer maintenance hasn't been done. See if the chain and sprockets look worn or look like new. After running the engine, let the oil settle and see how clean or dirty it looks. Check the air pressure in the tires. You'd be surprised how many folks don't even bother to make sure the air pressure is correct when they are selling the bike. That is a sure sign of someone who shouldn't be on a motorcycle. The are other signs to look for that others can jump in a tell you.
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    Is there any difference between the 08 and an 11?

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    "Too many" is a relative term.

    12K miles isn't a lot of miles for a 4 year old bike. That's only 3K miles a year. I put about 8K miles on mine is a year so in the same about of time my bike would have about 32K.

    While 12K isn't really a lot of miles, it may be a lot compared to other bikes available for sale. It's not uncommon to find bikes that are 4 years old with only a couple thousand miles. Some people would prefer to have a bike with fewer miles if they are available. But, some people also figure that people who have a 4 year old bike with only 3K or 4K miles on it didn't ride it much and probably didn't take care of it either. People who actually ride their bikes are more likely to have taken good care of them versus someone who rides once or twice a year and then parks it in the garage for 9 months.
    I'm not saying that stupidity should be punishable by death. We just need to remove all the warning labels and let the problem take care of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
    Is there any difference between the 08 and an 11?
    06-08 is a first gen Ninja 650. 09-11 is 2nd gen. 12 is the 3rd gen.


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    3rd Gen
    I'm not saying that stupidity should be punishable by death. We just need to remove all the warning labels and let the problem take care of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybhall View Post
    "Too many" is a relative term.

    12K miles isn't a lot of miles for a 4 year old bike. That's only 3K miles a year. I put about 8K miles on mine is a year so in the same about of time my bike would have about 32K.

    While 12K isn't really a lot of miles, it may be a lot compared to other bikes available for sale. It's not uncommon to find bikes that are 4 years old with only a couple thousand miles. Some people would prefer to have a bike with fewer miles if they are available. But, some people also figure that people who have a 4 year old bike with only 3K or 4K miles on it didn't ride it much and probably didn't take care of it either. People who actually ride their bikes are more likely to have taken good care of them versus someone who rides once or twice a year and then parks it in the garage for 9 months.
    Well this is going to be my first bike, I don't know how long sportbikes last, or if I should expect any problems with the miles on the bike.
    I am choosing between this bike an 08 with 12k for 3500-4000 or an 11 with 1k on it for 6000.

    Quote Originally Posted by tonybhall View Post
    06-08 is a first gen Ninja 650. 09-11 is 2nd gen. 12 is the 3rd gen.


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    2nd Gen


    3rd Gen
    Thanks for the pictures I thought it went 08-11 for the second gen, I like the syling for the second gen the best, but its going to be my first bike, I won't keep it forever.

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    Yeah, I like the 2nd gen the best too. Between the two you're looking at, i'd try to get the 11 with 1K miles on it. But I would't pay a dime over $5K for it.
    I'm not saying that stupidity should be punishable by death. We just need to remove all the warning labels and let the problem take care of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybhall View Post
    Yeah, I like the 2nd gen the best too. Between the two you're looking at, i'd try to get the 11 with 1K miles on it. But I would't pay a dime over $5K for it.
    Any specific reasons why you'd chose that over the 1st gen? I'd love to get it for 5k, but none of the ninja 650's I've been watching on craigslist go that low for an 11, plus I have to wait for the guy to recieve the title from paying off the loan, not sure how long it's going to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
    Any specific reasons why you'd chose that over the 1st gen? I'd love to get it for 5k, but none of the ninja 650's I've been watching on craigslist go that low for an 11, plus I have to wait for the guy to recieve the title from paying off the loan, not sure how long it's going to take.
    I just like the 2nd gen better. They addressed a lot of minor issues from the 1st gen when they did the 2nd gen redesign. But mostly I really prefer the look of the 2nd gen. The Kelly Blue Book Retail price, meaning a fully reconditioned bike in excellent condition purchased from a dealer, for the 11 Ninja 650 is $5300. I wouldn't pay $700 over Blue Book for one. But the market in your area may support those prices. In my area, bikes tend to go for a little under Blue Book. And if you're patient, you can find a good deal from a motivated seller. I've purchased 2 bikes in the past 5 years. One for $1K under Blue Book and the other for $1300 under Blue Book. But I was very patient in both purchases.
    I'm not saying that stupidity should be punishable by death. We just need to remove all the warning labels and let the problem take care of itself.

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    Def not to many miles. My 08 had 38000 miles when i sold it n mar. Absolutelly no problems with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybhall View Post
    I just like the 2nd gen better. They addressed a lot of minor issues from the 1st gen when they did the 2nd gen redesign. But mostly I really prefer the look of the 2nd gen. The Kelly Blue Book Retail price, meaning a fully reconditioned bike in excellent condition purchased from a dealer, for the 11 Ninja 650 is $5300. I wouldn't pay $700 over Blue Book for one. But the market in your area may support those prices. In my area, bikes tend to go for a little under Blue Book. And if you're patient, you can find a good deal from a motivated seller. I've purchased 2 bikes in the past 5 years. One for $1K under Blue Book and the other for $1300 under Blue Book. But I was very patient in both purchases.
    Yeah, I've noticed the blue book value for bikes is kind of low for my area. Were there any major problems with the first gen? I would just hate to buy the 11 and drop it for some reason and mess up that perfect body it has. I think I'll talk to both of the guys more, and get some more info on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmsred View Post
    Def not to many miles. My 08 had 38000 miles when i sold it n mar. Absolutelly no problems with it
    Thats good to hear, see how long it takes me to get there haha.

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    I forget what all they did on the 09 re-design. I know the biggest issue they addressed was probably the fairing buzz. And obviously the new styling.

    2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650R Riding Impression Review- Ninja 650R Photos

    2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650R Review - Motorcycle USA

    There are a couple of reviews on the 09 which probably address all the updates.
    I'm not saying that stupidity should be punishable by death. We just need to remove all the warning labels and let the problem take care of itself.

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    I believe the 1st gen to be a better bike, but that is my opinion. It definitely got better fuel economy than the later bikes. I think it is more aerodynamic as well and wasn't trying to be a copy cat the supersport bikes. It was it's own bike, and I recall less issues reported with the gen 1 bikes.
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    14k isn't that many at all. I have had my 2010 since last year. It had 0 miles on it when I bought it. I now have 15000 miles on it. So in all aspect in 4 years I would and probably will be at 60k!!!
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