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    Question about Kawasaki low seat

    Is the seat built on a lower seat pan or is it just padded differently?

    My wife is vertically challenged and I need to drop some height off the seat as well as the suspension on her bike. I've got Soupy's link on the way to handle the suspension but I need to figure out the best way to shed as many inches off the bike as is safe.

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    I have the lowered seat and it helped a lot for me. The new lowered seat is 1 inch lower and almost an inch thinner in the inseam area. The combination of being 1 inch lower with thinner sides allowed me to flat foor the bike at 5 feet 5 inches with a 28 inch inseam. You may also want to look into the LadyStar boot but the boots are expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu View Post
    I have the lowered seat and it helped a lot for me. The new lowered seat is 1 inch lower and almost an inch thinner in the inseam area. The combination of being 1 inch lower with thinner sides allowed me to flat foor the bike at 5 feet 5 inches with a 28 inch inseam. You may also want to look into the LadyStar boot but the boots are expensive.
    Thanks. The wife stands a mighty 5'2" and I think has a 27 or 28" inseam. Her previous bike (SV650s) had a factory low seat and the seat pan itself was an inch lower. I took that to an upholsterer and got it another 1" lower and with better foam. Combined with 2" lowering links, I got it down 4" below stock to the top of the seat. If you say it is narrower, that implies it is likely a different seat pan. I may just have to drop the $300+ and get it and then have some upholstery magic done to bring it down another 1".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottJA View Post
    Thanks. The wife stands a mighty 5'2" and I think has a 27 or 28" inseam. Her previous bike (SV650s) had a factory low seat and the seat pan itself was an inch lower. I took that to an upholsterer and got it another 1" lower and with better foam. Combined with 2" lowering links, I got it down 4" below stock to the top of the seat. If you say it is narrower, that implies it is likely a different seat pan. I may just have to drop the $300+ and get it and then have some upholstery magic done to bring it down another 1".
    wow, that's A LOT of lowering haha. Shouldn't your wife be able to flatfoot with just 2 inchs lowered? since you said she has around 27/28" inseam? I too have 28" inseam, I'm unable to flatfoot but I've learned to live with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottJA View Post
    Thanks. The wife stands a mighty 5'2" and I think has a 27 or 28" inseam. Her previous bike (SV650s) had a factory low seat and the seat pan itself was an inch lower. I took that to an upholsterer and got it another 1" lower and with better foam. Combined with 2" lowering links, I got it down 4" below stock to the top of the seat. If you say it is narrower, that implies it is likely a different seat pan. I may just have to drop the $300+ and get it and then have some upholstery magic done to bring it down another 1".
    The lowered seat has better foam but I don't know if you can take away from it anymore without compromising comfort. I think your wife may be okay with just the new lowered seat and dropping the bike an inch with Soupys Peformance lowering bracket. Stock bike seat is 31.1 inches high. The lowering link will take it down to 30.1 inches, the seat should drop it down to 29.1, the thinner sides should also drop it another half inch. So you're now at 28.6 inches, added a decent pair of riding boot with thicker heel and you should be right around 27-28 inches. Keep in mind that if you keep the stock bars, you'll need to lower the front by about 20-22mm to keep the bike geometry. I have mine lowered 22mm and I have about 2-3mm clearance from the top of the forks...just something to think about.
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    We've got the low seat, lowering link, and 2.5" heels put together to get my wife to where she can flatfoot. Link made her competent, seat made her confident, and boots were the icing on the cake to flatfoot. She's 5'2" with about a 27" inseam, maybe 27.5"...

    It's the exact same pan, just the foam is different. As stated before, there's not much left to take out of the "low" seat, so don't bank on that plan.
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    I can't really do much for the boots. My wife and I are both active duty Army so it's combat boots Monday through Friday. I installed the Soupy's link this afternoon and she notices the difference. She can now get the balls of her feet firmly on the ground. a note on the soupy's link: one of the coils on the shock is now touching a part of the sub-frame when the shock is under momentary load e.g. speed bumps and pot holes. It will eventually wear less than 1mm off of it, mostly the finish. I don't consider it a deal breaker, but it does make a noticeable noise at low speed until it wears the spot down. It did fine on the test ride though!

    If the factory low seat is built on the same seat pan, I have an upholsterer locally who can swap out and redo the foam to achieve the same result and it will cost us less than $100. That should set her up perfectly. He can make it lower and put better quality foam in at the same time.

    I appreciate the help and suggestions. I used to post to this forum in the early 2000's when I had a ZR7s. I actually bought my Z from a guy on this forum. The Army has decided I will be spending the next few months in the sandbox so I think I will be reading up on the 650R in my spare time and getting re-aquianted with riderforums.

    After putting about 75 miles on the wife's bike I believe this will be my next motorcycle. It reminds me of my ZR7 and strikes me as what I always wanted from my ZR7...namely modern upgrades like fuel injection and better brakes.

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    I've considered the low seat. I can touch on my forefoot, but I could probably flat foot if I went with it. One thing I've wondered is if it changes the rider position to make it uncomfortable or do you guys adjust the position of your pegs as well?

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    I got one FS.Posted here a while ago.That is the kawa lowered seat. I got my stock seat done by Spencer and its a bit higher but good enough.

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    Scott, alot of people have mentioned the spring touching on the subframe, have you tried rotating the spring(It moves easily...well it should at least!) that should take the rubbing out of the equation!
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    I haven't tried to rotate the spring. It didn't even occur to me. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'll give it a shot tomorrow. It will also give me an excuse to test ride the "repair" to the wife's bike. I really like this bike.

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