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    do frame sliders work?

    I was talking to me buddy who rides a gixxer 750 and he told me that frame sliders are for when you drop your bike in a parking lot and things like that. he pretty much said they don't work. now, the whole reason for this is because I'm not getting full coverage on my bike and he thinks I should. But 3,000+ dollars a year for insurance is alot, half of what I paid for the bike! So, I guess I need to know if he's right. Should I spend 130 on sliders or 3,000 on insurance? thanks for any addvice.

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    I think he is wrong. I have read about guys dropping their bikes at high speeds and sliders saving them money. And even if you drop it in the parking lost, think about it your fairing will be scratched up no matter what speed to go at. Thats 205 for the fairing and possible another 200 on random damage, depending how to drop it. Sliders cost what 130, I think they are worth it no doubt about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumpbump
    I was talking to me buddy who rides a gixxer 750 and he told me that frame sliders are for when you drop your bike in a parking lot and things like that. he pretty much said they don't work. now, the whole reason for this is because I'm not getting full coverage on my bike and he thinks I should. But 3,000+ dollars a year for insurance is alot, half of what I paid for the bike! So, I guess I need to know if he's right. Should I spend 130 on sliders or 3,000 on insurance? thanks for any addvice.
    go get frame sliders - enough said. If you wanna spend $3000 on insurance then go for it. but like Tigi said.if u drop it once even just standin there u saved urself at least $75

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    Be careful of sliders that don't require fairing modifications--the few I've seen have been very poorly designed and don't attach to an engine mount point, so in a lowside they bend and break off and cause more damage than not having sliders at all.

    Not to say that's always the case, but it's something to look for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuz
    Be careful of sliders that don't require fairing modifications--the few I've seen have been very poorly designed and don't attach to an engine mount point, so in a lowside they bend and break off and cause more damage than not having sliders at all.

    Not to say that's always the case, but it's something to look for.
    Hmm.. Aren't they designed to bend or break depending on how hard the impact is? The whole point is for that slider to take all the damage and not your frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuz
    Be careful of sliders that don't require fairing modifications--the few I've seen have been very poorly designed and don't attach to an engine mount point, so in a lowside they bend and break off and cause more damage than not having sliders at all.

    Not to say that's always the case, but it's something to look for.
    My Woodcraft's snapped a mount, in a 40mph lowside. Anything can happen.
    Out of over 200 sets of R&G's sold, 2 customers had complaints.

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    Normally, I don't like any sliders that have offset in the mount. But when you see the R&G sliders in person, it's clear that they made strength a priority. The mount is very strong and will not break before the slider bolt bends. And the bolt they use is about as big as anyone's so they must be pretty tough. No slider can defend against all damage, but in a low-side at 10~40mph, they usually do a pretty good job.

    And of course we have them in stock as well as the Woodcrafts, which are available in some jazzy colors.

    http://www.motospecialties.com/store...rame%20Sliders
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    worth every penny... I forgot to put the side stand down.. and plop went the bike on it's side.. right onto the slider where it bounced a couple of times... not a scratch on the bike anywhere..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCloak
    Normally, I don't like any sliders that have offset in the mount. But when you see the R&G sliders in person, it's clear that they made strength a priority. The mount is very strong and will not break before the slider bolt bends. And the bolt they use is about as big as anyone's so they must be pretty tough. No slider can defend against all damage, but in a low-side at 10~40mph, they usually do a pretty good job.

    And of course we have them in stock as well as the Woodcrafts, which are available in some jazzy colors.

    http://www.motospecialties.com/store...rame%20Sliders
    +1 I have seen the Kawasaki factory sliders after a fall. The slider mount was bent over and did not look like it helped protect the fairing that much. But the R&G sliders mounts are really beefy. Just my 2 cents.
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    I was concerned that the mirror extenders would cause the mirrors to hit the ground first. So i tested it..... Me and my bro gently laid the bike over to see if my R&G slider would touch first and it did. I have woodcraft swingarm sliders too. There was more than 2 inches of clearance for the mirrors. Buy them they work.
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    Here are pic's of mine R&G's from a 35 to 40 low side.left fairing got scratched all the way down to the lower and engine cover.But nothing else...and all was repairable with some sanding and filler.The slider did bend....but everything else was good!
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    I've been thinking about getting tougher bolts for the pucks of my R&G's so they don't bend like that. I read somewhere that a stunt cage uses a higher grade bolt for it's sliders. That's the only thing I would change about the R&G's. They require no modification, yet they are super fixed to the frame...plus, they make the bike look bad ***!
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    If you make the bolts too strong, something else will break. By choosing the bolt they did they made a comprimise that they thought was appropriate. "Stronger" bolts are often more brittle as well, and may snap instead of bending.
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