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Why is neutral between 1st and 2nd?

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    Why is neutral between 1st and 2nd?

    I heard once it was for safety, but I can't understand this.... many times, I've shifted at slow speed and ended up in neutral instead of 2nd.

    Anyone know?

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    My guess is because it sucks starting off in 2nd not to mention embarassing. There would be no question of whether your'e in first because its the most lowest gear beyond Neutral.
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    I dont know about you but when quickly downshifting to enter a corner I would hate to have to wonder what gear I am in, or expect to pull out of a corner only to fall on the gas tank in neutral. Maybe it just me but I like to know when the shifter won't click down anymore I know I'm in first. Guess its just habit from riding quads and dirt bikes but its always been 1 down the rest up...unless your racing motoGP. Don't think much of it anymore.
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    Here is what I found on another forum.

    "Actually, there is a specific reason why neutral ended up between first and second gear when motorcycle controls were standardized in 1975: SAFETY.

    "In the 60s and 70s, there was a growing trend toward placing neutral below first gear. My nephew, for example, had a Kawasaki 100 with a '4 up' shift pattern (N,1,2,3,4). As this shift pattern gained popularity, more and more motorcyclists were developing the tendency to instictively shift the bike all the way down into neutral as they slowed, sometimes accidentally, but most times intentionally. The idea was that you could stay in neutral at a light or stop sign, then clutch into gear and start rolling again when right-of-way was established. The habit was obviously flawed, and riders started getting hurt.

    The vast majority of injuries were caused when a bike was inadvertently upshifted from neutral into first gear at a fast coast. The resultant engine breaking caused instant rear wheel lockups, which in turn caused crashes. The mechanical aspects of neutral's location also caused various runability and logistical problems, as well.

    By locating neutral between first and second gears, the severity of engine breaking in the event of accidental upshift was reduced, as well as making neutral a relative inconvenience, rather than something riders depended on. It also made first gear the natural first position in the gear box, which is where the transmission should be adjusted whenever the bike is stopped in traffic anyway."

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    Now that's an indepth answer

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